and the weekly F*CK IBM thread.....

[Demosthenes]

So I have 2 dead IBM hard drives. I mean like totally dead no matter what I can not get any system to post either of them... now one says March 2002.. the other.. April 2000... is it possible IBM might swap me a working drive for these peices of crap? I'd think maybe at least the March drive since that was only a year ago..... thanks would appreciate any help..

 

[tbates757]

Yes they should give you a replacement... Probably going to send you another Hard Drive marked for death though...

 

[Tab]

Just a word of the wise, DeskStars DO NOT like any overclocking what so ever. From what i've seen and heard.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Tabb
Just a word of the wise, DeskStars DO NOT like any overclocking what so ever. From what i've seen and heard.

How would the drive itself be affected by overclocking? Wouldn't it only be the IDE controller on the mobo?

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: Tabb
Just a word of the wise, DeskStars DO NOT like any overclocking what so ever. From what i've seen and heard.

How would the drive itself be affected by overclocking? Wouldn't it only be the IDE controller on the mobo?

Divider?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The new Hitatchi/IBM are very nice I hear...

 

[RbSX]

IBM is replacing the deathstars with the new 180gxps which are very nice.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara
IBM is replacing the deathstars with the new 180gxps which are very nice.

When did they start this? I just got a replacement 4 weeks ago, another deathstar. Sold it on eBay though.

 

[butch84]

The reason they might have problems with overclocking lies in non-standard pci bus speeds. This is how it works, i think . . . . . When you overclock using a motherboard without an agp and pci lock, the pci and agp buses will vary above and below standard speeds when you change the front side bus. Since the ide controller runs off the pci bus, it can create issues with the integrated drive electronics on certain (ibm) hard drives, creating errors and general mayhem. I think* this is the deal, but if im wrong, feel free to correct me.

Butch

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: butch84
The reason they might have problems with overclocking lies in non-standard pci bus speeds. This is how it works, i think . . . . . When you overclock using a motherboard without an agp and pci lock, the pci and agp buses will vary above and below standard speeds when you change the front side bus. Since the ide controller runs off the pci bus, it can create issues with the integrated drive electronics on certain (ibm) hard drives, creating errors and general mayhem. I think* this is the deal, but if im wrong, feel free to correct me.

Butch

Nah, I think you're right. The controller though is usually a seperate PCI card or on the mobo. My question was why would one harddrive handle an overclock better/worse than another? If I misread your response, just tell me.

 

[butch84]

You understood my response correctly. I think the reason some hard drives dont like overclocking as well as others is due to the fact that they use different drive electronics. Some may be better tuned for performance, but have less tolerance for non standard bus speeds. I know its not an exact answer, but consider this question: Why do some motherboards with the same chipset overclock differently even if they have the same bios options? It just depends on the implementation the motherboard manufacturer decided on when designing the motherboard (trace lengths, etc). Its the same kind of thing.

Hope that kinda helps.
butch