And the NSA leaks continue: BoundlessInformant

[Hayabusa Rider]

You may well be right, you often are, but i thought it also involved Clinton administration, I might have been confused by more recent stories like this 2006 one.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/07/AR2006030701860.html

Agency monitoring of phones was a '60s thing. It goes way back.

 

[colonelciller]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/jun/07/privacy-wyden-clapper-nsa-video

ROFL
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-boundless-informant-global-datamining?CMP=twt_gu#

so much for trusting our overlords

 

[colonelciller]

either bullshit by Guardian or a controlled "leak" by NSA, a lot more countries would be red/orange if this was real

or how about neither option is true and the leak was not controlled.

unless you believe that the NSA would leak information that would prove that the NSA leadership lied under oath while testifying before congress. at least this revelation means that the 2nd item in your proposed false dichotomy is completely absurd.

this leaves us with why you have a knee-jerk preference for calling it bullshit...?

 

[colonelciller]

Agency monitoring of phones was a '60s thing. It goes way back.

big difference between targeted spying vs complete and total big-brother dragnet surveillance of all calls within the country... followed up by permanent archiving in a data center, and those records (along with bank records, library records, credit card records, physical movements via smartphone GPS)... and then subjecting that vast Big-Brother archive to datamining.

the difference is so great that it's hard to understand the relevance of spying 50 years with regards to what is going on today.

 

[Fern]

big difference between targeted spying vs complete and total big-brother dragnet surveillance of all calls within the country... followed up by permanent archiving in a data center, and those records (along with bank records, library records, credit card records, physical movements via smartphone GPS)... and then subjecting that vast Big-Brother archive to datamining.

the difference is so great that it's hard to understand the relevance of spying 50 years with regards to what is going on today.

True, good point.

Fern