And the Motorola RAZR is obsolete . . .

Bateluer

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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/02/droid-razrmax-on-the-way-is-this-the-hd-version-of-the-razr/

Little is known about the phone, but when you see “DROID” mixed into the name, you know it’s headed to Verizon. Since we saw two new HD screened RAZR-esque phones announced for China just last week, one could assume that one of them may end up as the RAZRMAX here in the states. “MAX” as a word in general, gives off an impression of “bonus” or “upgraded” which would fit in perfectly with an HD screen. Or could it be a bigger battery? Tough to tell from EXIF data.

Buy a Bionic, obsolete in a month with a better phone. Buy a RAZR, obsolete in a month with a better phone. Seriously Motorola?
 

Glitchny

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I don't see how a new phone coming out makes the others obsolete. They still work and function perfectly well.
 

Bateluer

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I don't see how a new phone coming out makes the others obsolete. They still work and function perfectly well.

So, you wouldn't be in the least bit irritated buying a Bionic only to have the Razr launch a few weeks late, with a faster SoC, better screen, more RAM, etc?

There's also the support nightmare it creates for Motorola, they have to write software for each of these phones. The more phones they release, the more difficult it becomes to support them all properly.
 

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Does it have MotoBlur on it? If so, I'm not interested. I'm tired of owning an Android phone that randomly freezes at unlock screen and randomly reboots itself in the middle of a call.

And, YES, I'm blaming MotoBlur on that. My HTC Android phone has never had either of those issues.

I can't wait until Google kills that add-on and makes them use vanilla Android instead.
 
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If you want to play the Android game, you have to accept that the Android platform is what is driving cell phone innovation. They are continually trying to out do each other and make phones faster, more responsive and all around better.
Apple on the other hand is content on releasing one unit every 18 months and having minimal hardware updates.
 
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That's why I bought my WP7 phone, Verizon never releases a better one! :)

This seems to be very true. They say ICS is built from the ground up rather than pieced together... If WP7 had better devices I would of jumped on one a while ago.

Yes, Bionic will be getting ICS within this month.
 

bearxor

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That's one thing I like about an iPhone. You know if you buy one that it's going to be the newest model for a full year and you'll get OS upgrades in a timely manner instead of the slow rollouts with Android and WP7.

That's one of the biggies that made me ditch 6 years of Windows Mobile usage in 2008. Still can't forgive Sprint/HTC for not releasing an EVDO update to the PPC-6600 when the Verizon version seemed to be just fine and dandy.
 

YoungGun21

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Everything I have read makes it seem like it is just a bigger battery. In all likelihood, it will probably use the exact same internals. I wouldn't call it obsolete, if that is the case.
 

Bateluer

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My old Galaxy S must be a relic and worthless, I love it though

Ah, but they'd launched the Galaxy S in January and launched the Galaxy S2 in February and then followed that with a Galaxy S3 in March, you'd be going 'WTF?'. :p


will Bionics be getting ICS?

They claim to be making an ICS update, late 1Q12, supposedly. Moto's got a decent track record of producing OS updates on their high end phones, though not the quickest.
 

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So, you wouldn't be in the least bit irritated buying a Bionic only to have the Razr launch a few weeks late, with a faster SoC, better screen, more RAM, etc?

Considering that a user-replaceable battery is one of my requirements, no, I wasn't the least bit irritated.

ZV
 

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So, you wouldn't be in the least bit irritated buying a Bionic only to have the Razr launch a few weeks late, with a faster SoC, better screen, more RAM, etc?

There's almost always something better coming out in the next few months. If Motorola hadn't released something, another manufacturer was bound to do it and make the RAZR obsolete anyways.
 

Raduque

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The RAZR MAXX was pretty much ignored back when it was a flip phone - wonder if history will repeat?
 

Bateluer

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There's almost always something better coming out in the next few months. If Motorola hadn't released something, another manufacturer was bound to do it and make the RAZR obsolete anyways.

If Samsung releases a better phone than the RAZR a month after the RAZR launches, thats just competition. Moto doing it shoots themselves in the foot. :p

All conjecture though, since the only thing known about the device is the name and the Droid branding. Could come out six months from now, and change SoCs a couple times too.
 
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I thought the bionic was suppose to be released back in early spring 2011... do you think it was planned this way - releasing it a month before the Razr?
 

Bateluer

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I thought the bionic was suppose to be released back in early spring 2011... do you think it was planned this way - releasing it a month before the Razr?

Bionic was announced in January, with a March launch date. That version was Tegra 2 based and cancelled. Another device, codenamed Targa, became the Bionic, and had a July launch date. Which was delayed until September. Allegedly, they ran into issues with Tegra 2 and the LTE hardware, which Nvidia denied. But, they probably should have canceled the Bionic and just launched the RAZR.
 

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Well I for one would be pretty annoyed if I had bought a Bionic in October. If I'm buying a high-end smartphone, I want to know that it's a true flagship product. I want that product to represent the best thing the OEM can make. . . not just a stop-gap that they'll kick to the curb a couple months later.

IMO Samsung are the only ones who got the Android formula right. Release ONE flagship product each year with true cutting edge specs. Samsung's profits and marketshare prove that this business model works.

The SGS was the most advanced and powerful Android phone of its time with its Hummingbird SOC (with PowerVR SGX540) and SAMOLED screen. Now the SGS2 is still easily the most powerful Android phone over 6 months after release. Knowing this, I would certainly buy a future Galaxy S smartphone with confidence that it won't be old and outdated a couple months later.

I can't say the same for any of Motorola's Android devices.
 

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I actually agree with the OP. I don't have any Motorola phones, but I can appreciate being burned out by a company that releases too many products too quickly. It leaves a bad taste in the consumers mouth and does nothing to build brand loyalty. While the argument of "They can make a better device and it doesn't make yours worse" holds value, that's not the way to treat customers. I cant think of a single company that has done this strategy and had it work out.
 

Ravynmagi

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Look at the bright side. If we are just hearing rumors of this device now and with how carriers drag their feet, this product could still be months from release.