Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Nobody is throwing money at Barak because they think she is a heartbeat away from the presidency if McCain wins. You're kidding yourself with that talk. They are throwing money at Barak because they realized last night that she might be the difference maker in this election. And by difference maker I mean Obama campaign sinker.
Do you have any evidence for the motives of democratic donoirs in the last 24 hours?
As a democrat, I know that'd be my motivation, that the McCain ticket just went from 'terrible' to 'dangerous'.
But I know you would like to make up the reasons to suit your interests by claiming how it's all about how good she did.
Of course, I think anyone reacting that much over reading a speech written for her is absurd. I can understand people supporting her for her views, but not for the speech.
I think the whole 'anonymous candidate completely owned by the campaign marketing team' who doesn't talk to the press but only reads scripted things is bad for democracy.
Pretty much anyone can be puffed up by the advertising people that way. Rememberhow different Bush was as a candidate from his actual pesidential policies.
My reasons aren't any less made up than yours...
So, you just made them up. I didn't claim to speak for all the democrats, like you did, I spoke for my own view, which I can speak for. I admit speculation; you wrote as 'fact'.
And if it makes you feel better to think that she delivered a canned speech that was completely devoid of her personality and all about marketing... fine.
I'll say this... the opening was canned. McCain this and McCain that... the end was canned too.
But the middle? The smirks and the sarcasm. The biting sense of humor. The jabs at Obama. That was all her. Scully may have polished it a bit but I've seen her in action. I've watched her in debates. I've seen her without a telepromptor. She's that good with or without a script. I voted for her for governor. She's really like that. Nobody writes speeches like that.
Right now they are riding the afterglow because, let's face it, it's all they have right now. But after this weekend she'll be out there with no script, no telepromptor... facing real questions from reporters. Be careful what you ask for.
Of *course* the speech was 'about her', captured some of her style, that's what speechwriters do, they try to help politicians say things in their style, better.
There are differences among politicians, though. Some, like JFK, either write a lot of their own material or otherwise contribute a lot - the good speech is a reflection of their ability.
Others are helped a lot by the speechwriter; almost any candidate can look decent with basic presentation and a decent speechwriter, on first impression.
I'm not objecting to her making a good impression later, if she does. If she becomes America's darling, fine, that's democracy.
It's the corruption of the system, the bypassing of democracy, when candidates' weaknesses are hidden, so that big money marketing can dominate, I object to.
She did not give any interviews but one fluff piece between her nomination by McCain and the big speech. There's a report they'll limit her press access until the election. There was a report that McCain has cut off the press from direct access. These are all things I don't care for that prevent the public from getting more, and more accurate, info. I'm fine with a balance - the convention speeches are going to be closely controlled much of the time. But I want other info to get out too, that serves democracy instead of the campaign.
Hopefully you can understand that while I"m strongly opposed to her on policy grounds, my opinions also include pro-democracy views regardless of who it helps, because as strong as my views are on who the better candidate is for the nation, I think that democracy's protection is even more important. And yes, the big money advertising approach is a threat to democracy working well. Democracy rests on an 'informed populace', and advertising is designed to persuade, not inform.
It seems we agree on the need for her to not be smothered by the campaign, for better or worse.