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CPA

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: OrByte
Her best comment of the night was:

In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers.

And then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change.



That statement was badass! :)

That's the kind of statement that is the equivalent of starting a Bar fight!!
She beat the hell out of Obama, but she did it in a way that had people laughing.

It was a perfect way to go at him. She hit in the all the right spots, but she still came across as being likable. A very tough thing to do. If Hillary gave that same speech we would be talking about how mean and crass she was.
Pfft. she had the Republican base laughing but they aren'y known for their sense of humor, to them Rush Limbaugh is a another Will Rogers.

What are you talking about, I have a great sense of humor.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: OrByte
Her best comment of the night was:

In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers.

And then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change.



That statement was badass! :)

That's the kind of statement that is the equivalent of starting a Bar fight!!
She beat the hell out of Obama, but she did it in a way that had people laughing.

It was a perfect way to go at him. She hit in the all the right spots, but she still came across as being likable. A very tough thing to do. If Hillary gave that same speech we would be talking about how mean and crass she was.
Pfft. she had the Republican base laughing but they aren'y known for their sense of humor, to them Rush Limbaugh is a another Will Rogers.

What are you talking about, I have a great sense of humor.

And your wife has a greater sense. Look at who she shacked up with all these years.:D

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Dari
SARAH PALIN IS NOT A GOOD SPEAKER. I'm sorry but her voice annoys me like Hillary's laugh annoys me. And she sounds like a fucking pushover in a room with men. She is no Martha Sterwart, Gola Meir or Margaret Thatcher, women that had the power to frighten men.
I don't know about that, I bet that dumb ass redneck teenager who knocked up her daughter is scared shit less of her.

 

Dari

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Craig234

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari
SARAH PALIN IS NOT A GOOD SPEAKER. I'm sorry but her voice annoys me like Hillary's laugh annoys me. And she sounds like a fucking pushover in a room with men. She is no Martha Sterwart, Gola Meir or Margaret Thatcher, women that had the power to frighten men.
I don't know about that, I bet that dumb ass redneck teenager who knocked up her daughter is scared shit less of her.

Not to politicize the issue, but on a side note, do you think that the two kids were suddenly informed that they are engaged when the story broke?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari
SARAH PALIN IS NOT A GOOD SPEAKER. I'm sorry but her voice annoys me like Hillary's laugh annoys me. And she sounds like a fucking pushover in a room with men. She is no Martha Sterwart, Gola Meir or Margaret Thatcher, women that had the power to frighten men.
I don't know about that, I bet that dumb ass redneck teenager who knocked up her daughter is scared shit less of her.

Not to politicize the issue, but on a side note, do you think that the two kids were suddenly informed that they are engaged when the story broke?
Nah I'm sure when Mother Palin found out it was made clear to that kid that he was going to marry her daughter or else. Now not only is Mother Palin using her power as Governor of Alaska making sure that's gong to happen the whole American Republican Party is going to make sure it happens. That kids really fucked if she gets elected somehow as VP and he has a change of heart. Of course he'll probably get a new Pickup Truck out of the deal so it probably seems like a win win for him.
 

PELarson

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari
SARAH PALIN IS NOT A GOOD SPEAKER. I'm sorry but her voice annoys me like Hillary's laugh annoys me. And she sounds like a fucking pushover in a room with men. She is no Martha Sterwart, Gola Meir or Margaret Thatcher, women that had the power to frighten men.
I don't know about that, I bet that dumb ass redneck teenager who knocked up her daughter is scared shit less of her.

Not to politicize the issue, but on a side note, do you think that the two kids were suddenly informed that they are engaged when the story broke?


One of these went missing somewhere in Alaska, just before the announcement!
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: RKDaley
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: jpeyton

Amazing for a woman who just got her passport last year.

well, she sure can't compare to Obama's childhood indoctrination inside a madarsa :p

What is a madarsa?
I find it interesting how you only seem to make a lot of snarky remarks about Obama, yet claim you will vote for him. Are you publicly saying that but secretly rooting for McCain?

i spend more time dealing with loki's comments than about anyone else here, for someone supposedly voting for obama it is weird that he digs up repeated disproven junk like this up time and time again.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: PELarson
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Dari
SARAH PALIN IS NOT A GOOD SPEAKER. I'm sorry but her voice annoys me like Hillary's laugh annoys me. And she sounds like a fucking pushover in a room with men. She is no Martha Sterwart, Gola Meir or Margaret Thatcher, women that had the power to frighten men.
I don't know about that, I bet that dumb ass redneck teenager who knocked up her daughter is scared shit less of her.

Not to politicize the issue, but on a side note, do you think that the two kids were suddenly informed that they are engaged when the story broke?


One of these went missing somewhere in Alaska, just before the announcement!


Drooools.
 

sportage

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Here what they don?t yet know about her, I?d wager.

·Palin recently said that the war in Iraq is "God's task." She's even admitted she hasn't thought about the war much?just last year she was quoted saying, "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq."

·Palin has actively sought the support of the fringe Alaska Independence Party. Six months ago, Palin told members of the group?who advocate for a vote on secession from the union?to "keep up the good work" and "wished the party luck on what she called its 'inspiring convention.'

·Palin wants to teach creationism in public schools. She hasn't made clear whether she thinks evolution is a fact.

·Palin doesn't believe that humans contribute to global warming. Speaking about climate change, she said, "I'm not one though who would attribute it to being manmade."

·Palin has close ties to Big Oil. Her inauguration was even sponsored by BP.

·Palin is extremely anti-choice. She doesn't even support abortion in the case of rape or incest.

·Palin opposes comprehensive sex-ed in public schools. She's said she will only support abstinence-only approaches.

·As mayor, Palin tried to ban books from the library. Palin asked the library how she might go about banning books because some had inappropriate language in them?shocking the librarian, Mary Ellen Baker. According to Time, "news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor."

·She DID support the Bridge to Nowhere (before she opposed it). Palin claimed that she said "thanks, but no thanks" to the infamous Bridge to Nowhere. But in 2006, Palin supported the project repeatedly, saying that Alaska should take advantage of earmarks "while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist."
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: sportage
Here what they don?t yet know about her, I?d wager.

·Palin recently said that the war in Iraq is "God's task." She's even admitted she hasn't thought about the war much?just last year she was quoted saying, "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq."

·Palin has actively sought the support of the fringe Alaska Independence Party. Six months ago, Palin told members of the group?who advocate for a vote on secession from the union?to "keep up the good work" and "wished the party luck on what she called its 'inspiring convention.'

·Palin wants to teach creationism in public schools. She hasn't made clear whether she thinks evolution is a fact.

·Palin doesn't believe that humans contribute to global warming. Speaking about climate change, she said, "I'm not one though who would attribute it to being manmade."

·Palin has close ties to Big Oil. Her inauguration was even sponsored by BP.

·Palin is extremely anti-choice. She doesn't even support abortion in the case of rape or incest.

·Palin opposes comprehensive sex-ed in public schools. She's said she will only support abstinence-only approaches.

·As mayor, Palin tried to ban books from the library. Palin asked the library how she might go about banning books because some had inappropriate language in them?shocking the librarian, Mary Ellen Baker. According to Time, "news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor."

·She DID support the Bridge to Nowhere (before she opposed it). Palin claimed that she said "thanks, but no thanks" to the infamous Bridge to Nowhere. But in 2006, Palin supported the project repeatedly, saying that Alaska should take advantage of earmarks "while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist."


How many threads are you going to post the DNC talking points in?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: sportage
Here what they don?t yet know about her, I?d wager.

·Palin recently said that the war in Iraq is "God's task." She's even admitted she hasn't thought about the war much?just last year she was quoted saying, "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq."

·Palin has actively sought the support of the fringe Alaska Independence Party. Six months ago, Palin told members of the group?who advocate for a vote on secession from the union?to "keep up the good work" and "wished the party luck on what she called its 'inspiring convention.'

·Palin wants to teach creationism in public schools. She hasn't made clear whether she thinks evolution is a fact.

·Palin doesn't believe that humans contribute to global warming. Speaking about climate change, she said, "I'm not one though who would attribute it to being manmade."

·Palin has close ties to Big Oil. Her inauguration was even sponsored by BP.

·Palin is extremely anti-choice. She doesn't even support abortion in the case of rape or incest.

·Palin opposes comprehensive sex-ed in public schools. She's said she will only support abstinence-only approaches.

·As mayor, Palin tried to ban books from the library. Palin asked the library how she might go about banning books because some had inappropriate language in them?shocking the librarian, Mary Ellen Baker. According to Time, "news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor."

·She DID support the Bridge to Nowhere (before she opposed it). Palin claimed that she said "thanks, but no thanks" to the infamous Bridge to Nowhere. But in 2006, Palin supported the project repeatedly, saying that Alaska should take advantage of earmarks "while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist."


How many threads are you going to post the DNC talking points in?

It will take many more than this to penetrate your thick head.
 

cliftonite

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: sportage
Here what they don?t yet know about her, I?d wager.

·Palin recently said that the war in Iraq is "God's task." She's even admitted she hasn't thought about the war much?just last year she was quoted saying, "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq."

·Palin has actively sought the support of the fringe Alaska Independence Party. Six months ago, Palin told members of the group?who advocate for a vote on secession from the union?to "keep up the good work" and "wished the party luck on what she called its 'inspiring convention.'

·Palin wants to teach creationism in public schools. She hasn't made clear whether she thinks evolution is a fact.

·Palin doesn't believe that humans contribute to global warming. Speaking about climate change, she said, "I'm not one though who would attribute it to being manmade."

·Palin has close ties to Big Oil. Her inauguration was even sponsored by BP.

·Palin is extremely anti-choice. She doesn't even support abortion in the case of rape or incest.

·Palin opposes comprehensive sex-ed in public schools. She's said she will only support abstinence-only approaches.

·As mayor, Palin tried to ban books from the library. Palin asked the library how she might go about banning books because some had inappropriate language in them?shocking the librarian, Mary Ellen Baker. According to Time, "news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor."

·She DID support the Bridge to Nowhere (before she opposed it). Palin claimed that she said "thanks, but no thanks" to the infamous Bridge to Nowhere. But in 2006, Palin supported the project repeatedly, saying that Alaska should take advantage of earmarks "while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist."


How many threads are you going to post the DNC talking points in?

As many as he wants? If you have a problem you should post it in forum issues.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Go to realclearpolitics.com and look at the responses to her speech.

The vast majority of them are very positive.
You may not like what she had to say, but no one is questioning her ability as a speaker and at connecting with an audience.

Obama has that great orator style similar to JFK and Martin Luther King.
Palin has that down home folksy style similar to Bill Clinton, Reagan and FDR.

Okay, I know you like the Republican party, but seriously, you're comparing her style to Bill Clinton??! Bill Clinton is an *outstanding* public speaker. She read a speech that she had days to rehearse which was probably written FOR her, not BY her (not that BC necessarily writes his own speeches.)

But, I listened closely to the speech - seriously, a lot of it was really good - the wording was good. But it looked like it was the first time she spoke in front of a large time - horrible timing; not the timing of an exceptional public speaker.
 
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Where are you getting this bogus 30 million figure from?

I think you got your wires crossed. The DNC averaged 30.2 million viewers, more than the Olympics. Obama's acceptance speech was watched by 38.4 million viewers.

Officially, 21.5 million viewers watched yesterday's RNC.

I think you misread your own link. I'll give you the bebefit of the doubt anyway. Can't really tell around here anymore.

Your link says 21 million on Tuesday night. Last night was Wednesday night. Nielson says Sarah drew 37.2 million viewers during her speech.

From your link...

The survey found that around 21.5 million people watched the Republican gathering unfold Tuesday night. That's 4.3 million fewer people than the 26 million viewers who tuned in last week for Day 2 of the Democratic National Convention.


Wednesday night... Sarah's speech...

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's highly anticipated speech at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night nearly matched the record-setting numbers of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

Palin pulled in 37.2 million viewers across broadcast and cable networks, according to Nielsen Media Research.

That's 55% higher than Day 3 of the DNC, when her Democratic counterpart, Joe Biden, and President Clinton took the stage (24 million).


 

OneOfTheseDays

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I'm quietly laughing inside at the Republicans jumping for joy about Palin right now. The initial glow and newness will die down in the coming months.

Her record is littered with inconsistencies and there is enough dirt in there to be slinging mud from here till 2012. Repubs will be left wondering WTF McCain was thinking when they lose this election.

A woman who got her 1st passport in 2006 is going to be VP of the United States of America........I don't think so. McCain just lost his entire foreign policy debate right there. Biden will eat her alive.
 

sandorski

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When Obama gets Elected, Palin will go make a Documentary titled: An Even More Inconvenient Truth. She'll explain how allowing pregnant raped women to have an abortion is a clear violation of morality in the 10,000 years since the begining of the Universe and that it is one of the main reasons for causing Global Warming.
 

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080904/D93079DG4.html

Hahaha... Now revised to over 40 million. That's about 1/3 of all the people expected to vote in this election. And more than watched Obama. (Look for the Obama camp to issue corrected number in the very near future)

FAIL.

You have to take into account Obama's PBS' audience, which is larger than Palin's, at around 4 million, which would put Obama at 42.4 million. Palin would be at 41.1 million.

Before crying victory, wait several days until the dust settles.
 
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Originally posted by: sammyunltd
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080904/D93079DG4.html

Hahaha... Now revised to over 40 million. That's about 1/3 of all the people expected to vote in this election. And more than watched Obama. (Look for the Obama camp to issue corrected number in the very near future)

FAIL.

You have to take into account Obama's PBS' audience, which is larger than Palin's, at around 4 million, which would put Obama at 42.4 million. Palin would be at 41.1 million.

Before crying victory, wait several days until the dust settles.

Awesome... Pretty much what I said... But still awesome. You're celebrating the fact that the Dem candidate for president may have just edged out the Republican VP for eyeballs.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: sammyunltd
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080904/D93079DG4.html

Hahaha... Now revised to over 40 million. That's about 1/3 of all the people expected to vote in this election. And more than watched Obama. (Look for the Obama camp to issue corrected number in the very near future)

FAIL.

You have to take into account Obama's PBS' audience, which is larger than Palin's, at around 4 million, which would put Obama at 42.4 million. Palin would be at 41.1 million.

Before crying victory, wait several days until the dust settles.

Awesome... Pretty much what I said... But still awesome. You're celebrating the fact that the Dem candidate for president may have just edged out the Republican VP for eyeballs.
Judging by the $10 million record-breaking one-day haul for Obama after Palin's speech, it's obvious a lot of those eyeballs didn't drink the party prune juice.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: sportage
Here what they don?t yet know about her, I?d wager.

·Palin recently said that the war in Iraq is "God's task." She's even admitted she hasn't thought about the war much?just last year she was quoted saying, "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq."

·Palin has actively sought the support of the fringe Alaska Independence Party. Six months ago, Palin told members of the group?who advocate for a vote on secession from the union?to "keep up the good work" and "wished the party luck on what she called its 'inspiring convention.'

·Palin wants to teach creationism in public schools. She hasn't made clear whether she thinks evolution is a fact.

·Palin doesn't believe that humans contribute to global warming. Speaking about climate change, she said, "I'm not one though who would attribute it to being manmade."

·Palin has close ties to Big Oil. Her inauguration was even sponsored by BP.

·Palin is extremely anti-choice. She doesn't even support abortion in the case of rape or incest.

·Palin opposes comprehensive sex-ed in public schools. She's said she will only support abstinence-only approaches.

·As mayor, Palin tried to ban books from the library. Palin asked the library how she might go about banning books because some had inappropriate language in them?shocking the librarian, Mary Ellen Baker. According to Time, "news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor."

·She DID support the Bridge to Nowhere (before she opposed it). Palin claimed that she said "thanks, but no thanks" to the infamous Bridge to Nowhere. But in 2006, Palin supported the project repeatedly, saying that Alaska should take advantage of earmarks "while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist."


How many threads are you going to post the DNC talking points in?

No response to the points, eh? How many times are you going to attack their being posted?
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
[Awesome... Pretty much what I said... But still awesome. You're celebrating the fact that the Dem candidate for president may have just edged out the Republican VP for eyeballs.

Yes, the brand new nominee few have heard of got attention for her first (Bush speechwriter-writen) speech, while Obama has had massive coverage for a year.

Now compare the level of *support* between Obama's first-since-JFK use of a stadium completely packed with 84,000 *supporters* versus the GOP's 'TV curiosity' audience.

You think Palin could have had people going to the lengths they did to see Obama, to see her speech in person?

But on another note about the blind Republican cult:

Weren't you guys just chanting how Obama is bad for being a 'celebrity' for big audiences? So now big audiences are good? Can you make up your mind? (Rhetorical).

We know how your lack of logic works. Democratcs with a small audience=bad. With a big audie=bad.

Democrats who make little money are unskilled. Who make a lot are eelitist.

How when Democrats dodge a question, they have something to hide, while when Republicans blackout media interviews for the new candidate, it's over 'media bias'.

And so on.
 
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: sammyunltd
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080904/D93079DG4.html

Hahaha... Now revised to over 40 million. That's about 1/3 of all the people expected to vote in this election. And more than watched Obama. (Look for the Obama camp to issue corrected number in the very near future)

FAIL.

You have to take into account Obama's PBS' audience, which is larger than Palin's, at around 4 million, which would put Obama at 42.4 million. Palin would be at 41.1 million.

Before crying victory, wait several days until the dust settles.

Awesome... Pretty much what I said... But still awesome. You're celebrating the fact that the Dem candidate for president may have just edged out the Republican VP for eyeballs.
Judging by the $10 million record-breaking one-day haul for Obama after Palin's speech, it's obvious a lot of those eyeballs didn't drink the party prune juice.

Apparently it scared the living shit out of the Dems...