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cbn

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Not only that, the application and OS would have to be optimized for that scenario.

ARM seems to be pushing "big/LITTLE" pretty strongly. In fact, all the Cortex A15 licensees (with the exception of the first OMAP 5 variant) will come with "big/LITTLE" cpu configuration.

A major exception would be Qualcomm...which uses their own custom Krait CPU core.

Therefore I would imagine this feature will be industry standard for the future (with MS adopting in their OS if they haven't already done so).
 

cbn

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Wonder how a single core HT enabled Ivybridge core would look compared to Atom in the same power envelope. With their 22nm process it seems possible that a 1-1.5GHz low voltage solo IB would have impressively low power consumption and great performance.

Here goes a long shot :)

How about "Core" alongside "Atom" in a "big.LITTLE" configuration? Both CPUs built on ultra low leakage process technology....with the atom CPU handling light loads, background tasks.

Maybe we could see this in 4-6 years? (Assuming "big.LITTLE" does become industry standard for MS/Android)
 

IntelUser2000

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Doesn't at least one cpu core need to be on at all times? In other words, shutting off all cpu cores is not possible right?

Nope, because we're talking about CPU cores. The short time it does nothing it can be storing whatever state into memory, or have the GPU do it. So every core can be totally turned off.

A major exception would be Qualcomm...which uses their own custom Krait CPU core.

Lots of companies(big ones too) push something and fail miserably. By the way Qualcomm has more than 2/3rd of the mobile application processor market, so if anything, they know how to do it better than anyone else as of right now.
 

CHADBOGA

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Oopsies....Are you still here? Happen to read Anands' article?

So much for claims of the x86 decode penalty.
The decode penalty exists for x86, but it can be overcome by a combination of superior design teams and superior manufacturing process.

Clearly ncalipari had no idea about the extent of the penalty and attributed a far higher penalty than actually exists.
 

Ben90

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AT said:
Intel isn't disclosing much about the solution, but by intercepting ARM binaries and translating ARM code to x86 code on the fly during execution Intel is hoping to achieve ~90% app compatibility at launch.
Woo that's a full decode... all the way
Double decode, Oh my God, double decode
It's a double decode all the way, dam
It's a double decode all the way, dam, oh my god
What does this mean, it's so bright, it's so vivid
Double decode, Double decode it's so intense
What does this mean?
It's starting to look like a triple-decode
That's a whole decode there – ahhhhhhh
Double decode all the way 'cross the sky, yeah, yeaaaah, it's so intense
Double decode all the way 'cross the sky, wow, wow oh my god
Look at that decode
Double complete decode oh my god
To watch oh my god it's full of awe I can't even capture it on my camera
Double decode all the way across the sky, yeah, yeaaaah, it's so intense
Double decode all the way across the sky, wow, wow oh my god
Look at that decode
Whoooooo, whoooooo that is the badest I've ever seen
 

nyker96

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Woo that's a full decode... all the way
Double decode, Oh my God, double decode
It's a double decode all the way, dam
It's a double decode all the way, dam, oh my god
What does this mean, it's so bright, it's so vivid
Double decode, Double decode it's so intense
What does this mean?
It's starting to look like a triple-decode
That's a whole decode there – ahhhhhhh
Double decode all the way 'cross the sky, yeah, yeaaaah, it's so intense
Double decode all the way 'cross the sky, wow, wow oh my god
Look at that decode
Double complete decode oh my god
To watch oh my god it's full of awe I can't even capture it on my camera
Double decode all the way across the sky, yeah, yeaaaah, it's so intense
Double decode all the way across the sky, wow, wow oh my god
Look at that decode
Whoooooo, whoooooo that is the badest I've ever seen

I'm sure this could be summarized in a few short sentences!
 

MrTeal

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And yet, despite the dozens of articles on DailyTech about various crap at CES, there hasn't been a single mention of Intel's big demo of Medfield, or really any mention at all of Medfield since this horribly incorrect article from Jan 3rd.
http://www.dailytech.com/Intel+Medf...werful+But+a+Battery+Guzzler/article23611.htm

Maybe it's taking longer to cast Intel in a poor light and show how ARM is going to make X86 obsolete this time?
 

jhu

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Keep in mind that Motorola has agreed to a mult-year and multi-device deal for these chips. They wouldn't do that if these chips weren't competitive.
 

Ferzerp

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Keep in mind that Motorola has agreed to a mult-year and multi-device deal for these chips. They wouldn't do that if these chips weren't competitive.

Cray bought a bunch of BD, so... can't really use that for proof.