and I thought pin modding a Pentium M would be hard...

[Smbu]

P-M 1.6@2.13ghz

I thought pin modding would be tough, but it's pretty damn easy. Besides taking off the cpu heatsink and fan, the hardest part was putting the little wire into the socket! haha. I just picked up this Pentium M 725 (1.6ghz) cpu, did the pin mod and it's running great at 2.13ghz Not too bad for the $65(shipped!) that I paid for the cpu, haha. I'm trying it out in my Asus Z63A for now(in place of my P-M 750 (1.86ghz) cpu) until my Asus Z70va arrives in the mail, then I'm gonna put this 1.6ghz cpu in there. I bought my Z70va w/o a cpu.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Nice, where is that pin modding guide again?

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Nice, where is that pin modding guide again?

Yes guide please ?

If this works then my Future Thinkpad T43/2 will become Dabomb, and won't require upgrading till years

 

[Smbu]

I just used this Pin modding guide even though it's for Dell 9300/XPS laptops, it doesn't really matter as it shows you where you need to put the wire in the socket. It also has a link to a pin modding guide at another site too.

Just keep in mind that you need to have a 400fsb Dothan P-M and have the Alviso chipset (able to use 400/533 fsb P-M's) on your laptop.

 

[bearxor]

The pictures of the wire used in a pinmod can not prepare you for how small the wire needs to be when you actually do it.

The hardest part is getting that wire right.

 

[lazybum131]

It's pretty easy to get in using a pair of pliers. Cut a small piece of wire then bend it with your fingers, then use the pliers to insert. Super easy, and I have fairly shaky hands.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Welcome to the club

 

[The Linuxator]

But wait a second ppl what about us with integrated graphics, bumping up the FSB to 533 MHZ doesn't sound like a good idea !!

 

[soccerballtux]

The chipset runs at whatever speed you tell it to run...and it can run at up to 133fsb, so this isn't a problem. Otherwise, upgrading to a real 133fsb chip (IE a 7x0) would break the laptop.

 

[OdiN]

Would this work on a 600m? I have a 1.5 in my 600m...this looks interesting.

edit - looks like no...guess I would be stuck at an upgrade to a 1.8.

Oh well..

 

[Smbu]

The inspiron 600m is pretty old now, so it can only handle 400 fsb cpu's. I think the latitude version the D610 was upgraded with the newer chipset that supports 533fsb cpu's.

Originally posted by: lazybum131
It's pretty easy to get in using a pair of pliers. Cut a small piece of wire then bend it with your fingers, then use the pliers to insert. Super easy, and I have fairly shaky hands.

Yup, I used pliers too to put the wire in the socket and to hold it while I cut the wire shorter with the mini-scissors on my pocket knife.

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
But wait a second ppl what about us with integrated graphics, bumping up the FSB to 533 MHZ doesn't sound like a good idea !!

There should be no problems with integrated graphics cards. The alviso chipset is designed to work at both 400 and 533 fsb speeds. The Asus Z63A that I'm running this 2.13ghz P-M at right now has the Intel integrated graphics card and it's working fine. Once I get my Asus Z70va, with a 128mb Radeon X700 vid card, I'm gonna put the cpu in there.

 

[mparr1708]

Originally posted by: Smbu
The inspiron 600m is pretty old now, so it can only handle 400 fsb cpu's. I think the latitude version the D610 was upgraded with the newer chipset that supports 533fsb cpu's.

You are correct the latitude D610s do have 533 FSB cpus and they also use ddr2 versus ddr333 in the inspiron 600m.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: Smbu
The inspiron 600m is pretty old now, so it can only handle 400 fsb cpu's. I think the latitude version the D610 was upgraded with the newer chipset that supports 533fsb cpu's.

Originally posted by: lazybum131
It's pretty easy to get in using a pair of pliers. Cut a small piece of wire then bend it with your fingers, then use the pliers to insert. Super easy, and I have fairly shaky hands.

Yup, I used pliers too to put the wire in the socket and to hold it while I cut the wire shorter with the mini-scissors on my pocket knife.

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
But wait a second ppl what about us with integrated graphics, bumping up the FSB to 533 MHZ doesn't sound like a good idea !!

There should be no problems with integrated graphics cards. The alviso chipset is designed to work at both 400 and 533 fsb speeds. The Asus Z63A that I'm running this 2.13ghz P-M at right now has the Intel integrated graphics card and it's working fine. Once I get my Asus Z70va, with a 128mb Radeon X700 vid card, I'm gonna put the cpu in there.

So does my Thinkpad R50e have the alviso chipset ?

 

[bearxor]

I didn't look it up, but I see you're using DDR400, so I'm going to say no.

The newer chipset would require the use of DDR2.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
So does my Thinkpad R50e have the alviso chipset ?

All R50e's and R51's (not R51e's, those use the ATI chipset) use the 400MHz FSB 855 platform (codenamed Odem). Alviso is the 910/915 chipsets used in the Sonoma platform, supporting 400 & 533MHz FSB.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
So does my Thinkpad R50e have the alviso chipset ?

All R50e's and R51's (not R51e's, those use the ATI chipset) use the 400MHz FSB 855 platform (codenamed Odem). Alviso is the 910/915 chipsets used in the Sonoma platform, supporting 400 & 533MHz FSB.

I know my system supports 400MHZ FSB max, but I wish there was a way for me to make the memory work at 400 instead of the current 333 !! Eventhough IBM said it's 400FSB but thye didn't mention that the Intel chipset supports a max of 333FSB, but I beleive it's not inpossible to push the FSB to 400 only how to do that withoout some hardcore modding (and I am not sure of there is a way to make the motherboard force a 400FSB on the chipset) or not !!

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
I know my system supports 400MHZ FSB max, but I wish there was a way for me to make the memory work at 400 instead of the current 333 !! Eventhough IBM said it's 400FSB but thye didn't mention that the Intel chipset supports a max of 333FSB, but I beleive it's not inpossible to push the FSB to 400 only how to do that withoout some hardcore modding (and I am not sure of there is a way to make the motherboard force a 400FSB on the chipset) or not !!

You are on the right track. You would have to OC the FSB. To my knowledge, this can be done on 855GM/GME chipsets, but not on 855PM. I think the prog you use is Clockgen, if you go to their site there are diff programs for diff chipsets. I think if you also google for overclocking pentium m or something you should find some good resources.

We did an overclocking article a while back:
http://www.laptoplogic.com/resources/detail.php?id=15

 

[kamranziadar]

Great post i like it i will try it also.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
I know my system supports 400MHZ FSB max, but I wish there was a way for me to make the memory work at 400 instead of the current 333 !! Eventhough IBM said it's 400FSB but thye didn't mention that the Intel chipset supports a max of 333FSB, but I beleive it's not inpossible to push the FSB to 400 only how to do that withoout some hardcore modding (and I am not sure of there is a way to make the motherboard force a 400FSB on the chipset) or not !!

You are on the right track. You would have to OC the FSB. To my knowledge, this can be done on 855GM/GME chipsets, but not on 855PM. I think the prog you use is Clockgen, if you go to their site there are diff programs for diff chipsets. I think if you also google for overclocking pentium m or something you should find some good resources.

We did an overclocking article a while back:
http://www.laptoplogic.com/resources/detail.php?id=15

Well I have told you before in a thread longtime ago, when I tried clockgen in windows XP it crashed my system, I even tried it after a clean restore, but same thing, and even if it worked in windows I only have windows XP in there because that is a condition for installing Computrace theft insurance program, meaning that %99 of the time I am running Linux and will need a solution that will work in it.

I asked around in this thread to see if there is anyway I can control the CPU in Linux below or above cpu limits but nothing till now , so I guess a hardware mod is the only way but still nobody have ventured there yet apparently

 

[fbrdphreak]

Eh, that sucks. Oh well, 1.6 is good enough