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And another 75GXP bites the dust......

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Windogg

Lifer
Well, just got the panic call from one of my cousins in New York. Seems his 60 gigger started making the funny clicking noises last night. He managed to get most of his data off before the drive ate the big one. I just walked him through the RMA process and it looks like the curse has struck again. I advised him to see the replacement drive as soon as he gets it.

Windogg
 


<< I advised him to see the replacement drive as soon as he gets it. >>



Would that be a missing L's as in SELL it as soon as he get it?😉

Selling it as soon as he gets a replacement is a very good ideal,tell him to just go out & buy a WD or maxtor.
 
Uhhh.... yea... "sell" would be a better word. 🙂

The drive is less than a year old. The case it resides in is a Enlight 7237 with good airflow all around. Perhaps it just wasn't enough.

Windogg
 
I've got my replacement 75GXP sitting on my dresser. I woulden't feel good about selling it to someone, knowing its going to die soon after I do, but I have been considering opening it up and taking a look inside. I've never done that before 🙂
 
Hmmm you can add a 60GXP 60GB to the list as well, lasted a whole 10 days from purchase date....
 


<< how long had he had it? My 15GB 75GXP is coming up on its 2yr anniv in June *knock wood* >>



I have a 20GB 75GXP (linux drive) and its been going for about 2.5 years 🙂 Its only the higher capacitiy 75GXPs that have the problem.
 
No GXP is 2.5 years old. IIFC they first shipped in the spring/summer of 2000. All capacities of 75GXP units have exhibited faster failure rates.
 
OMG people what's up with this. Every week (closer to everyday) for months now there's been a new thread about someone's IBM xxGXP dying. No-one cares anymore. How many times do you need to read that these drives have known issues and that if you're hearing noise or your drive has died you should RMA it, sell the drive they send you, and buy another drive by another manufacturer.

Please please please please please stop the IBM xxGXP failure threads, it's always the same and no-one cares anymore.

Thorin

PS >'Scuse my rant but this is crazy.
 


<< OMG people what's up with this. Every week (closer to everyday) for months now there's been a new thread about someone's IBM xxGXP dying. No-one cares anymore. How many times do you need to read that these drives have known issues and that if you're hearing noise or your drive has died you should RMA it, sell the drive they send you, and buy another drive by another manufacturer.

Please please please please please stop the IBM xxGXP failure threads, it's always the same and no-one cares anymore.

Thorin

PS >'Scuse my rant but this is crazy. >>



If this thread has prevented even just one individual from buying the junk hard drives that IBM puts out, I say keep em right on comming. I don't want to see anyone else waste their money on these things.
 


<< it's always the same and no-one cares anymore >>



Judging by the number of replies, apparently, some still do.
 


<< Well, just got the panic call from one of my cousins in New York. Seems his 60 gigger started making the funny clicking noises last night. He managed to get most of his data off before the drive ate the big one. I just walked him through the RMA process and it looks like the curse has struck again. I advised him to see the replacement drive as soon as he gets it.

Windogg >>



tell him "welcome to the club" 😀
 
Can't judge IBM right now, they're in trouble but other companies such as WD and maxtor went through the same thing at one time or another.
It's just that now everyone uses the Internet, so word spreads alot faster now, 2 years ago it wouldn't even been kwown but by a few people.
I have 2- 30gigs going strong yet.
I aslo bought a WD 1200JB
 


<<

<< how long had he had it? My 15GB 75GXP is coming up on its 2yr anniv in June *knock wood* >>



I have a 20GB 75GXP (linux drive) and its been going for about 2.5 years 🙂 Its only the higher capacitiy 75GXPs that have the problem. >>



You're wrong buddy. I have a 30GB and 75GB 75GXP that have both been running like champs since 2000. The system that they're in runs 24/7 and is turned off for maybe 2hrs a year.
 


<< No GXP is 2.5 years old. IIFC they first shipped in the spring/summer of 2000. All capacities of 75GXP units have exhibited faster failure rates. >>



Eh, sorry about that. I was just estimating the date. Now you've got me thinking...although I don't want to pull the drive and check to see if I actualy have a 75GXP 20GB drive or not... did they even make those? I could have swore thats what I have had.

Anyway, its an IBM, and it still works 🙂
 
well, i have 3 ibm 45gig drives in a server, running 24/7 for 3-years now, not one single problem. must be lucky 🙂
 
Well no one says a drive must fail. Hell I still have an IBM XT with a 10MB Seagate that has been running for the better part of 15+ years. From my old days here I was one of the biggest fans of IBM drives and never ceased to recommend the 34GXP series. I still have several 20.5GB and 14.4GB (14GXP Series) running 24/7. To say I am disappointed with the overall failure rate of 75GXP would be an understatement. Having installed many of these in a professional capacity, it is just money out of my own pocket when something does go wrong.

On a statistical scale, the best indication of the scope of the problem was be a datacenter with hundreds of drives. At an article pasted at HardOCP, their host replaced many hundred 72GXP drives in one fell swoop due to what they called an unacceptable failure rate. A 24/7 operation with high rates of I/O reads and writes seems the best candidate to judge. No to discount those with good luck, but the chances of a drive being stressed are very low. In many of our home systems the drive is powered 24/7 but most of the time is spend idling as opposed to working full tilt.

Windogg
 
I had a 40 gig 60 GXP go toes up on me saturdy after about a month of use. I had all my Tagged MP3 files on it but having read about the 60 GXP model being a fragile little bitch just like it's 75 GXP sibling I made a couple backup of all my data and MP3 files. Good thing too
 
Doesn't IBM warranty these drives for 3 years? Doesn't IBM have a hard drive manager software program that tests the drive and if it fails you can go to their website, get an RMA, mail it back and in a couple of weeks get a another drive?😕
 


<< Doesn't IBM warranty these drives for 3 years? Doesn't IBM have a hard drive manager software program that tests the drive and if it fails you can go to their website, get an RMA, mail it back and in a couple of weeks get a another drive?😕 >>



yes they do but that doesn't help you get you data back or keep a HD in your computer while the old one is being shiopped back to IBM
 


<< Doesn't IBM warranty these drives for 3 years? Doesn't IBM have a hard drive manager software program that tests the drive and if it fails you can go to their website, get an RMA, mail it back and in a couple of weeks get a another drive? >>



Yes, but. You don't get your data back and the drive they send you is just as prone to failure as the one you sent back.
 
"Judging by the number of replies, apparently, some still do. "

Some people just like hearing their own voices and reading their own typing. Do a search for the GXP threads (there's lots of them and their easy to find) and you'll notice at least 60% of the same people saying the same things (I won't be surprised if alot of them are just copy/pasting from bookmarked or saved threads).

Thorin


Thorin, if these threads bother you just stay out of them from now on!
 
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