Anandtech: E6750 > Athlon 64 X2 6000+ but...

Sonikku

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myocardia

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Originally posted by: dmens
e6750 MSRP is $183, if retailers gouge, that is none of AT's concern.

Where did you get that idea? Those are Intel's wholesale prices, in lots of 1,000 cpu's, like it says right at the top of the page. So, first the distributor makes their profit, then the retailer/e-tailer makes their profit, and you get a retail price considerably higher than the wholesale prices you linked.
 

dmens

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AMD listed price for a 6000+ is $178 in 1000-unit trays, giving a $5 difference between the e6750 and 6000+. It is odd that newegg is selling 6000+ below the listed MSRP.

Should AT be expected to take day-to-day market pricing into account? I don't think so.
 

toslat

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Originally posted by: dmens
It is odd that newegg is selling 6000+ below the listed MSRP.

Thats possibly cos distributors and/or large retailer/e-tailer usually get price discounts for buying (or committing to) larger volumes or specific product portfolios hence enabling them to sell below the 1000-unit trays price
 

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Better off to sell them at a $5 loss now than a $20 loss in a couple months when nobody buys them. They just take up space in the warehouse that they could be using for products that actually move.
 

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Originally posted by: Sonikku
The article paints a very inaccurate picture.

The problem with "accuracy" and benchmark comparisons is that you can often change 1 setting with any given game and produce results that look vastly different from what another website has posted.

It's always been this way, and it will always be this way.

What you need to do is look at a wide variety of sites, and study how each came up with their respective results. For example, in that Anandtech article, you have to go all the way to the back to see the settings they used for the games-- not one used AA. Some were run at 1024x768. They did this in order to not put most of the stress on the GPU, and allow CPU scaling to show the differences between the chips. That makes sense in a CPU article, right?

If you find yourself playing STALKER at 1024x768 without AA, then these results might be useful for you. For the rest of us, we are forced to look elsewhere for something more comparable to what we do.

For example, let's use Firing Squad. They compare the same 2 chips, and when you look at the results for HL2 Ep1, you'll see that at lower resolutions without AA, that the e6750 is a stronger chip and performs better. But at 1600x1200 with AA, the difference is 1 or 2%. The AT article showed it much higher (again because of the lack of AA).

Take *all* benchmarks with a grain of salt (or a whole bottle if you're browsing HardOCP). Any specific benchmark setup and run-through are likely not indicative of everyone's real-world scenario, as components vary wildly and 2 setups are rarely identical. Look for websites that show a wide variety of games being tested under several resolutions and settings, with different CPUs and video cards.

The price difference doesn't make the comparison "unfair", since prices fluctuate over time. In fact, the comparison in general isn't "unfair". We should compare processors of different speeds and prices. It's important to know where one excels and another falls short. It's important to see that even a low-end X2 3800+ can compete very well with a C2D at 3.9ghz (if gaming is your focus). I don't just want to know how my $150 processor compares to other $150 chips... I want to know how it compares to $1000 chips and $70 chips too. I just want to know if I'm getting the best value for my money. Only very thorough benchmarks can ensure me of that. And, as you can see, you won't find that from just a single website.
 

coldpower27

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Originally posted by: Sonikku
AAtech pits them head to head here.

http://anandtech.com/cpuchipse...howdoc.aspx?i=3038&p=6

But it it really fair comparing a $225-$235 part to a $169 one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819115029

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819103773

I mean they treat them as though they were the same price...

Even the E6550 is more costly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...E16819115030&Tpk=E6550

The article paints a very inaccurate picture.

MSRP are included because they provide a non changing and static baselinr for comparison, as the demand lower and supply rises for this new SKU, the MSRP price will be where it falls down to. Give it time, for now they aren't competitors, but they will be so the article is much more forward thinking for now.