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Anand's KT266A motherboard roundup is finally up

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I agree, we were used to seeing in depth articles on mobos in the past, I guess there is no time for that now.
I still got a kick out of the Abit taking Gold though.
All the 266A chipset mobos are running to close to call,
I built a couple of the Epox boards and they are just as good as the Abit or any other one.
Maybe we need to complain a little about this.
 
I don't know why there is so much emphasis on the onboard RAID controllers...I've never even used the one in my current A7V 😛
 
To be totally frank and honest, I think this roundup is not the kind of quality we've come to expect from Anandtech.


Agreed. Not to take anything away from the terrific work the AT journalists have created (That's one long list!) but it left me with the impression that it was hurried out the door a little. I don't mind the occasional type-o or mixup (such as calling ECS' board the K75SA), but there are quite a few in that article. It would be nice to see the features of each board broken down and rated in comparison to the competion. A 1-10 scale would be nice...for things like overclocking ability, IDE performance, memory performance, integrated components, BIOS options, bundled goodies etc. All in all, it was an excellent piece of reporting.
 
LXi, with all due respect to Anand and everyone, I have to agree with much you said. The whole emphasis it seemed in deciding the top 3 rewards was on overclocking and the ability to use all 4 DIMM slots. I honestly think that especially in KR7A-RAID's place considering that the Dragon+, and A7V266-E, not to mention Shuttle AK35 GTR. I will say this though about the stability testing, realize that it is difficult to test the stability of a board. I think that the best way is by every day use, obviously that can;t be done in this setting, I do agree though that I wish he would do the 24 hour crash tests. I would not be too hard on Anand, really, I think something to keep in mind is that in deciding what board to get today, it lies so much in what your situation is. I mean, the A7V266-E/Dragon+/K7T266 Pro2-RU provide great features despite they aren't the best overclockers but still keep in mind that they are decent ocer's. I guess, what I would've liked to see is not a "This one is the best, and this one is the 2nd best." thing, I have gotten the feeling from Anand's comments that modern boards are all pretty much stable, but I guess I would like some kind of hard evidence showing this, but do keep in mind what I noted above. I think what I would've liked to see is like which are the bad apples, and evalluate the features of these boards.

Another thing that bother me was the way fsb overclocking testing was done. From what I see, all of the big names(Asus, Abit, MSi, EpoX, Gigabyte, and IWill) all did get to above 160fsb. And even a few unexpected suprises did above 160fsb (Soyo, Soltek, Shuttle). And I guess, seriously, I think that overclocking the fsb it really is best to not bring the mem bus out of sync, because that defeats the fsb overclocking. I'd rather push my board to 166fsb/mem clock and then stop rather than lower the mem to 133MHz and up the fsb to 185 for example on the KR7A. My point is that many of these boards will hit or get very close to 166fsb, and really, either PC2700 DDR or even Crucial PC2100 maybe if you're lucky will hit this as well and that's good enough for me. Then just give me a good range of vcore and DDR voltages and I'll be all set. My point again is that most of these boards will do decent overclocking, sure it may not be good enough for the most extreme overclocker but still it is good.

I'm probably being more negative than I want to be. I think the best way to sum up my thoughts about this roundup is, that he didn't give enough credit to the middle of the pack boards, that IMHO offered better features than KR7A and 8KHA+. Don't get me wrong, 8KHA+ and KR7A are great boards, but I think their (and to a lesser extent XP333-R) "incredible" overclocks were totally blown out of porportion and really, I doubt a KR7A running at 185fsb/133mem clock will be faster than a KR7A running at 166fsb/166mem clock. So the bottom line is I think a tad more attention needs next time to be paid to Features/Price/Stability.
 
In defence of Mike and Henry, I must stress that this is a motherboard "roundup". Had it been an individual motherboard review, it would have been far more in-depth, with the scoring system and length that you would have expected.
 


<< Mmm if abit rma policy didn't suck so much I would pick up one fo thier MB. >>


Maybe their policy has changed. I had one of their MB's go bad this summer, it was 1 1/2 yrs old and they replaced it for free, no hassles at all.
 
<<I think the best way to sum up my thoughts about this roundup is, that he didn't give enough credit to the middle of the pack boards, that IMHO offered better features than KR7A and 8KHA+.>>

That is right on the money. Many of the "middle of the pack" boards should've earned more respect than Mike gave. I was very disappointed to see Mike denigrate some of the most solid solutions like MSI, Asus and Shuttle. Asus losing the OC game? It got to 169MHz... Shuttle's AK31 was completely overlooked because of AK35GTR even though it's the most affordable KT266A available... and MSI was said to be a lackluster effort, coming far short of the best simply because Mike didn't know how to use the AMI BIOS. Much emphasis was place on overclocking and performance, the article was seemingly suggesting that anything except Abit and Epox is not worth a look. The price/features factor wasn't paid enough attention, and stability was simply a single sentence included the short description summary; do they even bother to run their torture tests anymore? I was so proud of the fact that Anandtech utilized stability tests. I mean, no offence to Mike or the Anandtech lab, but this is not the same level of expertise demonstrated by their earlier works.


<<In defence of Mike and Henry, I must stress that this is a motherboard "roundup". Had it been an individual motherboard review, it would have been far more in-depth, with the scoring system and length that you would have expected.>>

Im afraid AT will probably never do another solo motherboard review because they're favoring these time-efficient "roundups". The last solo motherboard review was done more than seven months ago, when Mike looked at the Gigabyte GA-7ZXR rev2.2, since then it's all been roundups. Boy, I remember back in the days, their mobo reviews were so well written, it was a blast to read them. Performance and overclocking wasn't the #1 thing, they looked at the layout, they looked at the features, they tortured the boards for stability, and they rated the boards in each individual categories. Their reviews were so insightful, so informative, and so in-depth. I'm really disappointed in that we may never see another review of that quality to show up on the AT front page. This is how I honestly feel right now.
 
It certainly was a cut to the chase, 'here's what I think is the best motherboards roundup'.. Now, I agree that the Abit board is a great board, and they have indeed gotten much better, but at least prove it. As for the EPoX and the 200+ FSB that was probably the only really good thing I read in the whole roundup. It wasn't a review, but it's good to learn at least a couple good things out of it, at least...

I can't believe it, I agree with LXi, too. 😛
 
Does anyone know the method Anand used to confirm the use of 1/5 and 1/6 dividers on the 8KHA+? A lot of people seem to say that is just a rumor, nothing more. Also, if it is proven true, is it the case with the newest non-beta BIOS (Dated Jan. 8th I believe)? This is the BIOS I have. It seems to have improved things dramatically for me in the overclocking department.
 
Everything I have read indicates that the Epox board does not have 1/5 and 1/6 PCI dividers. I was really hoping this review would put this issue to bed. This was the only reason I was looking forward to this review. Instead, they seemed to miss the whole point that there is a lot of debate out there about whether these dividers exist. The fact that the review states that they exist without any confirmatory testing at all really shows that they are not hitting the right points in their evaluation of these boards. Epox states that the dividers do not exist. VIA states that the KT266A chipset does not support these dividers. Since the reviewer didn't even bother to mention these points, I can only assume the reviewer is totally in the dark on this issue!
 
both the ali magik boards faired well...the xp333 is damn cheap as well, and the abilikty to run at 166/166 no problem is damn sweet.

giving ALL the informaiton about the boards, including rev. and bios is definitely nice....not enough reviewers do it.

good shizite.
 
Andy, do you have any inside info as to how the reviewers tested to see if the 1/5 and 1/6 PCI dividers actually work?
 


<< Andy, do you have any inside info as to how the reviewers tested to see if the 1/5 and 1/6 PCI dividers actually work? >>

same query....as in seconded
 


<< Andy, do you have any inside info as to how the reviewers tested to see if the 1/5 and 1/6 PCI dividers actually work? >>



Ditto
 
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