Anand lays smackdown on Inq hack!

[DAPUNISHER]

In this thread someone linked idiot ranting about what he has no clue about evidently

Anand was just waiting for the other NDA to expire as he pointed out in the comments thread of the first part. Now he has up both a couple gaming benchies and multitasking gaming senarios. Fell free to let the Inq know what a bunch of clueless hacks they are, I did 😀 Furthermore, he damned well knew better than to use names or websites because the resultant litigation would have put those dopes out of biz 😉

 

[bendixG15]

GrandPa was right ...It takes all kinds to make a world.....

 

[imported_jediknight]

The Inquirer is a biased piece of **** excuse for "journalism".

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22055
"A spokesVole said Microsoft"

'nuff said.

 

[pm]

No matter what you think of Charlie Demerjian, it'd be hard to imagine anyone seriously saying that he's "clueless". He certainly knows his stuff. I do sometimes wonder how hard he tries to be provacative though, and he has a tendancy to rant without actually checking with whether his initial view of the situation is, in fact, the correct one. I'm not just thinking of this current article, he's done it several other times that I can think of.

He did have a point about not benchmarking games in the initial article. It was one of the things that I wondered about when I read Anand's review. But he should have tried to contact Anand to ask about the lack rather than writing up something and posting it without checking out the full story.

Like I said, I wonder if he actively tries to be provacative in order to increase page views. I certainly read everything he writes just to see if I agree with his latest rant^H^H^H^H opinion article. 🙂

 

[ponyo]

I dunno. I kind of agree with the guy.

 

[EndGame]

Inq had a piece up for like 20 min. that basicly bashed Anandtech because apparently they received numerous letters from Anandtech members....gone now though...must have feared the Anandtech response...

 

[Gravity]

I think we have a little pull here and there.....don't know if you'd call it power, perhap influence?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: pm
No matter what you think of Charlie Demerjian, it'd be hard to imagine anyone seriously saying that he's "clueless". He certainly knows his stuff. I do sometimes wonder how hard he tries to be provacative though, and he has a tendancy to rant without actually checking with whether his initial view of the situation is, in fact, the correct one. I'm not just thinking of this current article, he's done it several other times that I can think of.

He did have a point about not benchmarking games in the initial article. It was one of the things that I wondered about when I read Anand's review. But he should have tried to contact Anand to ask about the lack rather than writing up something and posting it without checking out the full story.

Like I said, I wonder if he actively tries to be provacative in order to increase page views. I certainly read everything he writes just to see if I agree with his latest rant^H^H^H^H opinion article. 🙂

he is 100% accurate about MOST HW revieweers and review sites . . . . unfortunately - like MOST people who read Part 1 - didn't realize there was a soon-to-follow Part TWO.

TheInq is Well worth a read - whether you agree or disagree with their editorials. 😉

edit: i wrote to the author point out there was a part two to Anand's article and he replied:

From: Charlie Demerjian <charlie@stonearch.net>

No, I didn't miss that, and I actually do have names and numbers to back up my claim. I just didn't think it was worth it to spend the money on lawyers to name names, even if I could win. That said, I won't comment on names here. 🙂

:thumbsdown:

he won't admit his error - now that is a character flaw. 😛

 

[pm]

You should see the big flamewars that he gets in over at www.realworldtech.com's general forum. He and Paul Demone (a VLSI designer) get into technical flamefests periodically.

I actually quite a bit of respect for Charlie's knowledge of the industry and he's definitely pretty sharp. But based on what I've read and seen over at The Inq and RealWorldTech, he has a bit of a temper, and he seems like one of those people who I tend to think of are like a "Schmitt trigger". In this case, this was not one of his better opinion pieces and it's good that people called him on it.

 

[Venomous]

Originally posted by: Naustica
I dunno. I kind of agree with the guy.

I do too. However, ive been stating what charlie has for years... First obvious site to be bought off was Tom's, back when the Athlon was coming up.

 

[tynopik]

Originally posted by: Venomous

Originally posted by: Naustica
I dunno. I kind of agree with the guy.

I do too. However, ive been stating what charlie has for years... First obvious site to be bought off was Tom's, back when the Athlon was coming up.

ok there are 2 main parts to his article:

1. some hardware sites are on the take

undoubtedly this is true. on the other hand he didn't provide any substanitive proof

2. anand's review didn't include any game benches in the FIRST part of a 2 part review, which proves that he is merely an intel lackey and is trying to cover up how horrible the pentium-D is

this is where I completely and vehemently disagree with him

1. it's been known for YEARS that dual-processor systems don't help games
2. Anand specifically stated in the review:

However, the vast majority of other applications are single threaded (or offer no performance gain from dual core processors):

* office suites
* web browsers
* email clients
* media players
* games, etc.

If you spend any of your time working with the first group of applications, then generally speaking, you'll want to go with the dual core CPU. For the rest of you, a faster single core CPU will be the better individual performance pick

how much clearer does he need to be?

3. now that we've established dual-core is of no benefit games, why waste a bunch of time showing it with benchmarks and graphs?

I am more interested in the DIFFERENCES. Under what circumstances does the Pentium-D excel and by how much? THAT is what i want to know. I am intelligent enough to look at the scenarios and see if they apply to me. If they don't apply to you, then fine, stick with single core. However they do apply to me and i found them very informative and interesting.

Basically kicked Anand's review kicked everyone else's butt who simply benched a gazillion games and showed WHAT WE ALREADY KNEW

 

[Pariah]

Originally posted by: Venomous

Originally posted by: Naustica
I dunno. I kind of agree with the guy.

I do too. However, ive been stating what charlie has for years... First obvious site to be bought off was Tom's, back when the Athlon was coming up.

Very unlikely THG is on the take. They post way too many negative articles to be playing that game. For example, their current policy of no longer reviewing video cards right after the NDA expires since neither NVidia or ATi ever sells any until months later, is the exact opposite of what someone taking bribes would do. Who paid them off for that one? That's an awfully odd strategy to use to encourage review samples out of companies.

Someone on Slashdot hypothesized that THG was the site that Inq article was about to which someone responded:

"Two more. Bull sh__. As someone who used to work as a technical contact within a hardware marketing team, I can personally guarantee that Tom's Hardware demanded sweeteners, more than any other review site we worked with. And they were arrogant jackasses to boot."

Certainly sounds like THG is calling the shots, not the other way around.

The sites that are far more suspicous are the ones that never post decidedly negative articles, and like the Inq said, always finds something positive about any product no matter how bad and often even try to twist negatives into postives. Fence sitters are far more likely to be taking bribes than the arrogant sensationalist sites like THG and HardOCP.