Anand does SiS 648 DDR400 P4 chipset

ElFenix

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not bad, beats fully supported platforms pretty much every time.
 

Bovinicus

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How come SiS didn't stick with their single chip chipset design? I think merging the north and south bridges together is an elegant way to save PCB space. Oh well, the chipset still looks good.
 

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Wow, up there with PC1066 on most benchmarks, even passing it in some.
 

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How do the prices of PC1066 compare with the price of PC3200? If the difference is small why not just pay the small premium and get a guaranteed stable and speedy solution with an i850e board + PC1066...

Otherwise, the scores are impressive for DDR

-Ice
 

BD231

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The CAS settings for DDR 400 bother me. If it were not for the fact that cas2 with a 1T command rate is currently not attainable, DDR 400 would most likely beat pc1066.
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: icecool83
How do the prices of PC1066 compare with the price of PC3200? If the difference is small why not just pay the small premium and get a guaranteed stable and speedy solution with an i850e board + PC1066...

Otherwise, the scores are impressive for DDR

-Ice
PC3200 is much, much less, not to mention, a nice Sis648 motherboard will be far less expensive than a nice i850e motherboard.

Great board! :D
 

SocrPlyr

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i really wish anand would have included the 845g w/ ddr333 cuz i am planning on getting a board w/ that but i might be able to hold off if these ones come out soon also 1394 onboard sounds nice...

Josh

edit: oh by the way abit's sis 648 mobo is listed on price watch for $99, not to bad...
 

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Originally posted by: Bovinicus
How come SiS didn't stick with their single chip chipset design? I think merging the north and south bridges together is an elegant way to save PCB space. Oh well, the chipset still looks good.

Well, had it been a single chip design, there'd still be two chips -- the northbridge and the I/O chip. VIA has the I/O chip integrated in all of their southbridges, and the total number of chipsets is 2. As for SiS and Intel, they both use external I/O chips.

The performance is surely impressive. If only RAM prices were dropping instead of rising, it would be an unquestionably winning combination.
 

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Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: icecool83
How do the prices of PC1066 compare with the price of PC3200? If the difference is small why not just pay the small premium and get a guaranteed stable and speedy solution with an i850e board + PC1066...

Otherwise, the scores are impressive for DDR

-Ice
PC3200 is much, much less, not to mention, a nice Sis648 motherboard will be far less expensive than a nice i850e motherboard.

Great board! :D

Wow................where did you find good PC3200 like Corsair XMS or Mushkin or Samsung right now that is much less if any than PC1066???? ;) Been looking and most of the PC3200 is higher, or just slightly under PC1066 and just as hard or harder to find..............
 

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Originally posted by: ToBeMe
Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: icecool83
How do the prices of PC1066 compare with the price of PC3200? If the difference is small why not just pay the small premium and get a guaranteed stable and speedy solution with an i850e board + PC1066...

Otherwise, the scores are impressive for DDR

-Ice
PC3200 is much, much less, not to mention, a nice Sis648 motherboard will be far less expensive than a nice i850e motherboard.

Great board! :D

Wow................where did you find good PC3200 like Corsair XMS or Mushkin or Samsung right now that is much less if any than PC1066???? ;) Been looking and most of the PC3200 is higher, or just slightly under PC1066 and just as hard or harder to find..............


:p
 

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Well, SiS 648 Provided there is a great ocing feature filled board using it, has just taken the crown from 845g as the best pentium 4 chipset,closing the gap vs 850e to below 5% (not noticeable) in all but ProE-01, DRV-08, and UT 2003 Medium Detail (not applicable) when using DDR333. SiS may have a big time winner in the 648 not just for the Enthusiast community but for the OEM's as well because of not just USB2 but Firewire and the "super fast";) AGP 8X support. This is the king of the P4 chipsets in my book, with little reason to spend money on 850e and PC1066.
 

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Chee, among the highlights:

"VIA?s P4X400 board did not run DDR400 as seamlessly as the SiS 648 reference board and was not able to produce scores in some tests; in other situations it merely crashed randomly."

What a surprise. :D

"SiS has definitely come a long way in the past couple of years; from stealing VIA's thunder with the Socket-A 735 chipset to being the primary player in the 3rd party P4 chipset market, if they can improve their product execution SiS could easily become a force to be reckoned with."

100% agreed. SiS has stolen VIA's thunder in a hurry. 735 remains (IMHO) the most stable, reliable Socket A DDR chipset (no, I haven't forgotten AMD761 ... but show me a 761+766 single CPU board :D) and SiS' P4 efforts have been awesome. 645/645DX are excellent chipsets. It looks like 648 paired with DDR400 will provide the best price/performance ratio for the P4, at least for the time being.

Chalk up another nail in the RAMBUSt coffin :D :p :)
 

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SiS has stolen VIA's thunder in a hurry

I'll say. Especially if the 648 boards look like the Shuttle AS45 rev 1.2. That board is a killer.

735 remains (IMHO) the most stable, reliable Socket A DDR chipset

Ill second that one, too. Just bumped the FSB on my MSI 745 Ultra up to 190MHz. Running rock stable with a 256MB stick of Crucial PC2100. As a bonus my Diamond MX300/Aureal Vortex 2 sound card is working like a champ with no register or latency patches required.
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: ToBeMe
Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: icecool83
How do the prices of PC1066 compare with the price of PC3200? If the difference is small why not just pay the small premium and get a guaranteed stable and speedy solution with an i850e board + PC1066...

Otherwise, the scores are impressive for DDR

-Ice
PC3200 is much, much less, not to mention, a nice Sis648 motherboard will be far less expensive than a nice i850e motherboard.

Great board! :D

Wow................where did you find good PC3200 like Corsair XMS or Mushkin or Samsung right now that is much less if any than PC1066???? ;) Been looking and most of the PC3200 is higher, or just slightly under PC1066 and just as hard or harder to find..............
High End PC3200 vs. High End PC1066:

Corsair XMS PC3200 256MB - $125 (at newegg)
Samsung RIMM4200 PC1066 - $170 (at newegg)
PRICE DIFFERENCE: $45

Lower End PC3200 vs. Lower End PC1066:

Kingmax PC3200 256MB - $80 (at newegg)
KINGSTON RAMBUS 256MB 1066MHZ - $146 (at newegg)
PRICE DIFFERENCE: $66

I'm sorry, what were you saying? ;) :D



 

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i'm about to upgrade my system to a P4 1.6A CPU, and i'm 99% sure that i'm going to use the SiS648 chipset. now its just a matter of who's mobo is the most stable, reliable, and overclockable...and how long i can wait for it. Shuttle's new board is just full of features, but most of them are due to the chipset itself. if i were to go with the ASUS later on, i would know for a fact that i have one of the most stable boards out there, and the only true mobo feature i'd be missing is RAID i think...
 

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Originally posted by: Sunny129
i'm about to upgrade my system to a P4 1.6A CPU, and i'm 99% sure that i'm going to use the SiS648 chipset. now its just a matter of who's mobo is the most stable, reliable, and overclockable...and how long i can wait for it. Shuttle's new board is just full of features, but most of them are due to the chipset itself. if i were to go with the ASUS later on, i would know for a fact that i have one of the most stable boards out there, and the only true mobo feature i'd be missing is RAID i think...

You might want to wait for my review this week; it'll be a head to head comparison of the latest "unofficial" DDR400 boards based on the VIA P4X400 and SiS 648. :)
 

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Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: ToBeMe
Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: icecool83
How do the prices of PC1066 compare with the price of PC3200? If the difference is small why not just pay the small premium and get a guaranteed stable and speedy solution with an i850e board + PC1066...

Otherwise, the scores are impressive for DDR

-Ice
PC3200 is much, much less, not to mention, a nice Sis648 motherboard will be far less expensive than a nice i850e motherboard.

Great board! :D

Wow................where did you find good PC3200 like Corsair XMS or Mushkin or Samsung right now that is much less if any than PC1066???? ;) Been looking and most of the PC3200 is higher, or just slightly under PC1066 and just as hard or harder to find..............
High End PC3200 vs. High End PC1066:

Corsair XMS PC3200 256MB - $125 (at newegg)
Samsung RIMM4200 PC1066 - $170 (at newegg)
PRICE DIFFERENCE: $45

Lower End PC3200 vs. Lower End PC1066:

Kingmax PC3200 256MB - $80 (at newegg)
KINGSTON RAMBUS 256MB 1066MHZ - $146 (at newegg)
PRICE DIFFERENCE: $66

I'm sorry, what were you saying? ;) :D
Let me just add:

OCZ PC3200 512MB $188.00 vs Samsung Original RIMM 4200 32bit 2x 256MB (since not available in 512MB) $340.00.
 

Sunny129

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i'm not so sure i get the whole OCZ thing...why doesn't OCZ make a good comparison for for DDR vs. RDRAM?