Originally posted by: freegeeks
cool
the future will tell if they want it or not
if they accept it, Boeing is going to have major problems
Originally posted by: tontod
What is unique about Boeing's new design? Is it supposed to go faster than current jets? I travel abroad sometimes, and I'd be willing to pay a little extra to cut a few hours off my trip.
Originally posted by: tontod
What is unique about Boeing's new design? Is it supposed to go faster than current jets? I travel abroad sometimes, and I'd be willing to pay a little extra to cut a few hours off my trip.
Originally posted by: Dari
yeah, the more you travel, the more speed matters. Time is money.Originally posted by: tontod What is unique about Boeing's new design? Is it supposed to go faster than current jets? I travel abroad sometimes, and I'd be willing to pay a little extra to cut a few hours off my trip.
Originally posted by: dpm
Here in Britain the current problem with air travel is overcrowding - too many people wanting to get on not enough planes, with not enough airport space for them. So there are currently arguments on whether to build another south-east airport, or build another runway at heathrow, or whether to build a new airport in the midlands, or build another runway at birmingham...
Basically, the infrastructure here needs upgrading anyway - I think airbus are hoping that more people on each flight will really help here.
Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: dpm
Here in Britain the current problem with air travel is overcrowding - too many people wanting to get on not enough planes, with not enough airport space for them. So there are currently arguments on whether to build another south-east airport, or build another runway at heathrow, or whether to build a new airport in the midlands, or build another runway at birmingham...
Basically, the infrastructure here needs upgrading anyway - I think airbus are hoping that more people on each flight will really help here.
Runways are only part of the problem. Wait till you see a situation where 600 people get off a plane and flood an airport all at once. Wait till 4, or 10 or 20 of them arrive at the same time.
I can't stand boarding and getting off right now, it'll be even funner if they get the passengers up to 600. What takes half an hour now will take an hour. Not to mention the 3000 other people that just arrived and are hunting baggage and rides. Sounds like an absolute nightmare to me.
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Well, airbus are certainly in the lead right now. According to this (http://www.busrep.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=304193) Boeing hasn't yet decided whether it will build the 7E7 at all and Airbus has over 100 orders for their superjumbos.
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
... and hurt Boeing due to Airbus being subsidized.
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: dpm
Here in Britain the current problem with air travel is overcrowding - too many people wanting to get on not enough planes, with not enough airport space for them. So there are currently arguments on whether to build another south-east airport, or build another runway at heathrow, or whether to build a new airport in the midlands, or build another runway at birmingham...
Basically, the infrastructure here needs upgrading anyway - I think airbus are hoping that more people on each flight will really help here.
Runways are only part of the problem. Wait till you see a situation where 600 people get off a plane and flood an airport all at once. Wait till 4, or 10 or 20 of them arrive at the same time.
I can't stand boarding and getting off right now, it'll be even funner if they get the passengers up to 600. What takes half an hour now will take an hour. Not to mention the 3000 other people that just arrived and are hunting baggage and rides. Sounds like an absolute nightmare to me.
....and the same problem exists today when a couple of 747's arrive at the same time
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The 380 is not a competition to the 7E7.
Two different markets.
Boeing already decided to not challenge the 380, just to keep tweaking the existing line.
Their decision is to move forward with the 7E7 or skip a generation of planes. To skip will yeild the technology incremental market to Airbus for the next 10-15 years.
To keep on developing will probably saturate the market and hurt Boeing due to Airbus being subsidized.
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
... and hurt Boeing due to Airbus being subsidized.
Yeah, those evil French subsidizing their aerospace company. They should take a cue from the americans.
Oh wait a minute, they did that.![]()
Agreed. I don't fly out of the country, so I'm usually on 737's, 757's, and smaller MD's, and I have a hard time comprehending what deplaning on a 747 is like; deplaning with 600 other people will be murder. At some point, there's going to have to be a quality of life / cost balence here, as people won't be able to stand being sardined for hours at a time for much longer.Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: dpm
Here in Britain the current problem with air travel is overcrowding - too many people wanting to get on not enough planes, with not enough airport space for them. So there are currently arguments on whether to build another south-east airport, or build another runway at heathrow, or whether to build a new airport in the midlands, or build another runway at birmingham...
Basically, the infrastructure here needs upgrading anyway - I think airbus are hoping that more people on each flight will really help here.
Runways are only part of the problem. Wait till you see a situation where 600 people get off a plane and flood an airport all at once. Wait till 4, or 10 or 20 of them arrive at the same time.
I can't stand boarding and getting off right now, it'll be even funner if they get the passengers up to 600. What takes half an hour now will take an hour. Not to mention the 3000 other people that just arrived and are hunting baggage and rides. Sounds like an absolute nightmare to me.
....and the same problem exists today when a couple of 747's arrive at the same time
A similar problem but not the same, I would say disembarking 50% more people per plance is a significant increase in volume. 2 Jumbo's is equivalent to 3 747's in number of passengers. I can't even imagine the lines and number of people involved, whole airports will have to be reconstructed just to handle the HUMAN peak load. Things as simple as the number of bathrooms in the airport let alone baggage claims and taxi services.
I don't know, I'm scared of 600 people deplaning at the same time, a 747 practically floods a terminal and there aren't many of those around here.
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
... and hurt Boeing due to Airbus being subsidized.
Yeah, those evil French subsidizing their aerospace company. They should take a cue from the americans.
Oh wait a minute, they did that.![]()
I dont think defense contracts really count as subsidies.
I wonder how loud the EU would scream if we gave boeing a similar amount of money that airbus got to develope the 380?
In 1998, according to a monitoring study carried out on behalf of the Commission, it was estimated that the amount of US Government indirect support to its LCA industry (Large Civil Aircraft) reached almost $ 2 billion in 1997, i.e. around 7% of its commercial turnover (thus well above the 3% limit set by the 1992 Agreement).