An interesting little science fact

hjo3

Diamond Member
May 22, 2003
7,354
4
0
Did you know the force of gravity actually increases as you move deeper into the Earth up to a certain point? 3,550 miles from the core it's 1.02 Gs; 2,150 miles from the core it's 1.09 Gs. Wacky, huh?
 

simms

Diamond Member
Sep 21, 2001
8,211
0
0
Just like if you go away from the earth, like on top of a mountain, gravity is less? :shocked:
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
33,289
12,850
136
yes i did... F = G m1m2/ R^2, where G = constant (don't remember value), m1 = mass 1, m2 = mass 2, r = distance between them
 

hjo3

Diamond Member
May 22, 2003
7,354
4
0
Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
... you expected what now?
Most people would expect gravity to decrease as you move towards the center of the Earth... after all, at the core, it's effectively 0 G (or close to it).
 

KillerCharlie

Diamond Member
Aug 21, 2005
3,691
68
91
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
yes i did... F = G m1m2/ R^2, where G = constant (don't remember value), m1 = mass 1, m2 = mass 2, r = distance between them


BZZZZZTT! Nice try, but no. He's talking about going INSIDE the earth.
 

Powermoloch

Lifer
Jul 5, 2005
10,084
4
76
duh...of course...the more closer you get to the center...the higher it is...isn't it? same as for pressure and temperature.
 
Aug 10, 2001
10,420
2
0
At some point the force of gravity will begin to decrease as you dig deeper because m1 will keep getting smaller and smaller.
 

Connoisseur

Platinum Member
Sep 14, 2002
2,470
1
81
Originally posted by: hjo3
Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
... you expected what now?
Most people would expect gravity to decrease as you move towards the center of the Earth... after all, at the core, it's effectively 0 G (or close to it).

Actually.. if you assume that the earth is a perfect sphere, there is 0 net force anywhere INSIDE the earth. Using F= Gm1m2/R^2, you gotta take into account that there's mass on all sides of you. Turns out that in a sphere with uniform mass distribution the mass1/R1^2 on one side perfectly counteracts the mass2/R2^2 on the other side of any point of reference within the sphere. Obviously, since the earth is not a perfectly uniform sphere (core, mantle, crust), this will not hold true.
 

Connoisseur

Platinum Member
Sep 14, 2002
2,470
1
81
Originally posted by: Random Variable
At some point the force of gravity will begin to decrease as you dig deeper because m1 will keep getting smaller and smaller.

No. In "theory", once you're inside the "sphere" of earth, net gravitational force is 0. But as I mentioned in my previous post, since the earth is not a uniform sphere, this will not technically hold true. However, gravitational force does not uniformly decrease the further you go in. It's just not how physics works.
 

imported_Tick

Diamond Member
Feb 17, 2005
4,682
1
0
Actually, the REAL effect here is density. The earths core is far more dense, and thus gravitates more strongly, than the surounding rock. Thus, closer to the core, you get the greater density gravatational field, due to closeness, however, at some point, the gravity lost due to having less total mass counteracts that.
 

imported_Tick

Diamond Member
Feb 17, 2005
4,682
1
0
Originally posted by: Tick
Actually, the REAL effect here is density. The earths core is far more dense, and thus gravitates more strongly, than the surounding rock. Thus, closer to the core, you get the greater density gravatational field, due to closeness, however, at some point, the gravity lost due to having less total mass counteracts that.

This is not to say that any other posts were wrong, just that they aren't relevant in this instance.
 

hjo3

Diamond Member
May 22, 2003
7,354
4
0
Originally posted by: Powermoloch
duh...of course...the more closer you get to the center...the higher it is...isn't it? same as for pressure and temperature.
Pressure and temperature, sure -- gravity's different. 750 miles from the core it's only 0.45 Gs, for example.
 

KillerCharlie

Diamond Member
Aug 21, 2005
3,691
68
91
Originally posted by: Connoisseur
Originally posted by: hjo3
Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
... you expected what now?
Most people would expect gravity to decrease as you move towards the center of the Earth... after all, at the core, it's effectively 0 G (or close to it).

Actually.. if you assume that the earth is a perfect sphere, there is 0 net force anywhere INSIDE the earth. Using F= Gm1m2/R^2, you gotta take into account that there's mass on all sides of you. Turns out that in a sphere with uniform mass distribution the mass1/R1^2 on one side perfectly counteracts the mass2/R2^2 on the other side of any point of reference within the sphere. Obviously, since the earth is not a perfectly uniform sphere (core, mantle, crust), this will not hold true.


You are 100% wrong. There is force inside of a constant density sphere. Do the calculus yourself. It is only inside a spherical SHELL that there is no force.
 

imported_Tick

Diamond Member
Feb 17, 2005
4,682
1
0
Originally posted by: KillerCharlie
Originally posted by: Connoisseur
Originally posted by: hjo3
Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
... you expected what now?
Most people would expect gravity to decrease as you move towards the center of the Earth... after all, at the core, it's effectively 0 G (or close to it).

Actually.. if you assume that the earth is a perfect sphere, there is 0 net force anywhere INSIDE the earth. Using F= Gm1m2/R^2, you gotta take into account that there's mass on all sides of you. Turns out that in a sphere with uniform mass distribution the mass1/R1^2 on one side perfectly counteracts the mass2/R2^2 on the other side of any point of reference within the sphere. Obviously, since the earth is not a perfectly uniform sphere (core, mantle, crust), this will not hold true.


You are 100% wrong. There is force inside of a constant density sphere. Do the calculus yourself. It is only inside a spherical SHELL that there is no force.

I shoulda caught that. GJ.
 
Aug 10, 2001
10,420
2
0
Originally posted by: Connoisseur
Originally posted by: Random Variable
At some point the force of gravity will begin to decrease as you dig deeper because m1 will keep getting smaller and smaller.

No. In "theory", once you're inside the "sphere" of earth, net gravitational force is 0. But as I mentioned in my previous post, since the earth is not a uniform sphere, this will not technically hold true. However, gravitational force does not uniformly decrease the further you go in. It's just not how physics works.

I believe that principle applies to a hollow sphere.
 

PowerEngineer

Diamond Member
Oct 22, 2001
3,606
785
136
Originally posted by: Tick
Originally posted by: Tick
Actually, the REAL effect here is density. The earths core is far more dense, and thus gravitates more strongly, than the surounding rock. Thus, closer to the core, you get the greater density gravatational field, due to closeness, however, at some point, the gravity lost due to having less total mass counteracts that.

This is not to say that any other posts were wrong, just that they aren't relevant in this instance.

Oh, come on... some of the other posts are wrong!