An explanation of a vote for Kerry

Steeplerot

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I am writing this letter to the people in the red states in the middle

of the country -- the people who voted for George W. Bush. I am writing this
letter because I don't think we know each other.

So I'll make an introduction. I am a New Yorker who voted for John Kerry. I used
to live in California, and if I still lived there, I would vote for Kerry. I
used to live in Washington, DC, and if I still lived there, I would vote for
Kerry. Kerry won in all three of those regions.

Maybe you want to know more about me. Or maybe not; maybe you think you know me
already. You think I am some anti-American anarchist because I dislike George W.
Bush. You think that I am immoral and anti-family, because I support women's
reproductive freedom and gay rights. You think that I am dangerous, and even
evil, because I do not abide by your religious beliefs.

Maybe you are content to think that, to write me off as a ?liberal? - - the
dreaded ?L? word - - and rejoice that your candidate has triumphed over evil,
immoral, anti-American, anti-family people like me. But maybe you are still
curious. So here goes: this is who I am.

I am a New Yorker. I was here, in my apartment downtown, on September 11th. I
watched the Towers burn from the roof of my building. I went inside so that I
couldn't see them when they fell. I had friends who were inside. I have a friend
who still has nightmares about watching people jump and fall from the Towers. He
will never be the same. How many people like him do you know? People that can't
sit in a restaurant without plotting an escape route, in case it blows up?

I am a worker. I work across the street from the Citigroup Center, which the
government told us is a ?target? of terrorism. Later, we found out they were
relaying very old information, but it was already too late. They had given me
bad dreams again. The subway stop near my office was crowded with bomb-sniffing
dogs, policemen in heavy protective gear, soldiers. Now, every time I enter or
exit my office, all of my possessions are X-rayed to make sure I don't have any
weapons. How often are you stopped by a soldier with a bomb-sniffing dog outside
your office?

I am a neighbor. I have a neighbor who is a 9/11 widow. She has two children. My
husband does odd jobs for her now, like building bookshelves. Things her husband
should do. He uses her husband's tools, and the two little girls tell him,
?Those are our daddy's tools.? How many 9/11 widows and orphans do you know? How
often do you fill in for their dead loved ones?

I am a taxpayer. I worked my butt off to get where I did, and so did my parents.
My parents saved and borrowed and sent me to college. I worked my way through
graduate school. I won a full tuition scholarship to law school. All for the
privilege of working 2,600 hours last year. That works out to a 50 hour week,
every week, without any vacation days at all. I get to work by 9 am and rarely
leave before 9 p.m. I eat dinner at my office much more often than I eat dinner
at home. My husband and I paid over $70,000 in federal income tax last year. At
some point in the future, we will have to pay much more - - once this country
faces its deficit and the impossible burden of Social Security. In fact, the
areas of the country that supported Kerry - - New York, California, Illinois,
Massachusetts - - they are the financial centers of the nation. They are the tax
base of this country. How much did you pay, Kansas? How much did you contribute
to this government you support, Alabama? How much of this war in Iraq did you
pay for?

I am a liberal. The funny part is, liberals have this reputation for living in
Never-Neverland, being idealists, not being sensible. But let me tell you how I
see the world: I see America as one nation in a world of nations. Therefore, I
think we should try to get along with other nations. I see that gay people
exist. Therefore, I think they should be allowed to exist, and be treated the
same as other people. I see ways in which women are not allowed to control their
own bodies. Therefore, I think we should give women more control over their
bodies. I see that people have awful diseases.

Therefore, I think we should enable scientists to try to cure them. I see that
we have a Constitution. Therefore, I think it should be upheld. I see that there
were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Therefore, I think that Iraq was not an imminent danger to me. It seems so
pragmatic to me. How do you see the world? Do you really think voting against
gay marriage will keep people from being gay? Would you really prefer that
people continue to die from Parkinson's disease? Do you really not care about
the Constitutional rights of political detainees? Would you really have
supported the war if you knew the truth, or would you have wanted to spend more
of our money on health care, job training, terrorism preparedness?

I am an American. I have an American flag flying outside my home. I love my home
more than anything. I love that I grew up right outside New York City. I first
went to the Statue of Liberty with my 5th grade class, and my mom and dad took
me to the Empire State Building when I was 8. I love taking the subway to Yankee
Stadium. I loved living in Washington DC and going on dates to the Lincoln
Memorial. It is because I love this country so much that I argue with my
political opponents as much I do.

I am not safe. I never feel safe. My in-laws live in a small town in Ohio, and
that town has received more federal funding, per capita, for terrorism
preparedness than New York City has. I take subways and buses every day. I work
in a skyscraper across the street from a ?target.? I have emergency supplies and
a spare pair of sneakers in my desk, in case something happens while I'm at
work. Do you? How many times a month do you worry that your subway is going to
blow up? When you hear sirens on the street, do you run to the window to make
sure everything is okay? When you hear an airplane, do you flinch? Do you dread
beautiful, blue-skied September days? I don't know a single New Yorker who
doesn't spend the month of September on tip-toes, superstitiously praying for
rain so we don't have to relive that beautiful, blue-skied day.

I am lonely. I feel that we, as a nation, have alienated all our friends and
further provoked our enemies. I feel unprotected. Most of all I feel alienated
from my fellow citizens, because I don't understand what you are thinking. You
voted for a man who started a war in Iraq for no reason, against the wishes of
the entire world. You voted for a man whose lack of foresight and inability to
plan has led to massive insurgencies in Iraq, where weapons are disappearing
into the hands of terrorists. You voted for a man who let Osama Bin Laden escape
into the hills of Afghanistan so that he could start that war in Iraq. You voted
for a man who doesn't want to let people love who they want to love; doesn't
want to let doctors cure their patients; doesn't want to let women rule their
destinies. I don't understand why you voted for this man. For me, it is not
enough that he is personable; it is not enough that he seems like one of the
guys. Why did you vote for him? Why did you elect a man that lied to us in order
to persuade us to go to war? (Ten years ago you were incensed when our president
lied about his sex life; you thought it was an impeachable offense.) Why did you
elect a leader who thinks that strength cannot include diplomacy or
international cooperation? Why did you elect a man who did nothing except run
away and hide on September 11?

Most of all, I am terrified. I mean daily, I am afraid that I will not survive
this. I am afraid that I will lose my husband, that I will never have children,
that I will never grow old and watch the sunset in a backyard of my own. I am
afraid that my career -- which should end with a triumphant and good-natured
roast at a retirement party in 2035 -- will be cut short by an attack on me and
my colleagues, as we sit sending emails and making phone calls one ordinary
afternoon. Is your life at stake? Are you terrified?

I don't think you are. I don't think you realize what you have done. And if
anything happens to me or the people I love, I blame you. I wanted you to know
that.

-Anonymous Fellow American



:brokenheart: In hopes for a safer future for all of us.
 

Dubb

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yeah...that sums it up pretty well. I feel mostly the same way.

maybe someone from the right could do something similar? i.e. not the standard talking points, but an honest, open letter. what would you have written if kerry had won?
 

Klixxer

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blah, blah, blah and blah, does it matter? BUSH WON!

Could we please get over the election and concentrate on the matters at hand.

Like Megalomaniac Bushie Boy wanting to invade Iran?
 

Steeplerot

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I figured there are plenty of anti-bush threads out there at any point. This is from a bit more of a personal view of events Klixxer.
If he starts a draft for Iran you better be sure I will be posting about it and be on the streets.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I figured there are plenty of anti-bush threads out there at any point. This is from a bit more of a personal view of events Klixxer.
If he starts a draft for Iran you better be sure I will be posting about it and be on the streets.

If he starts a draft for an invasion of Iran i will be at home laughing my ass of at those experiencing what i have been doing for quite some time, and especially laughing at those who have been voting for him.

I won't be there, i am going home from Afghanistan within days and this is my last tour.

Canada is not far and if you decide you want to go for Germany, i'll do my best to set you up.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: slyedog
most of what you wrote is liberal bull shit. the rest is outright lies.
Bahaha... thanks for the laugh. Did you even read the title and thread description?
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: slyedog
most of what you wrote is liberal bull shit. the rest is outright lies.

Whoah, intelligence overload!

Are you the living proof that republicans are indeed stupid as fvck?
 

gutharius

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot

I am writing this letter to the people in the red states in the middle

Steep,

Just wanted to let you know I am a person in one of those red states, Texas. I feel your concern and know your struggle as I live it each day along side you, here, in Dallas. Invariably each week I will wonder, if what happened to New York will happen here. I see they found an SUV in Iraq, with Texas license plates no less, loaded with explosives. I sit and wonder, how they got a SUV with Texas license plates from HERE in Texas to Iraq. I sit and wonder, if the terrorists were able to do that in the middle of our occupation of Iraq, sight unseen, how easy it would have been for them to get it back here and drive it to Dallas or Houston and kill more innocent Americans. I wanted you to know, that your fear is shared, and is known beyond your niche of America. It is felt here in the largest of the RED STATES too. I wanted you to know that those of us here made our decisions on what we felt in our hearts and souls. Above all else I want you to know that even tho' we as Americans may not share the same ideas or values we do share a nation we care about, and ultimately we all are concerned about each other's future.

Take heart,

GWM
Dallas, Texas
 

gutharius

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Originally posted by: slyedog
most of what you wrote is liberal bull shit. the rest is outright lies.

None of it was meant to be factual, it was meant to be an attempt at getting to know someone, an attempt to reach out and see the other side of the issue.

Obviously this person feels very upset about what s/he sees as a betrayal of thier safety in a city directly affected by terrorism. Something you can not say, and should realize, sitting comfortably in deep south Louisiana. Perhaps you can muster a microsocpoic ounce of compassion from that cold dead heart of yours and show some FUC#ING Southern respect and decency! [I DEMAND AN APOLOGY AND DELETION OF YOUR COMMENT ON SIMPLE MORAL GROUNDS! Absolutly disgraceful!
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: slyedog
most of what you wrote is liberal bull shit. the rest is outright lies.

You probably haven't gotten out of your region much, and being born in the South, I understand the contempt some there have for "Yankees". You probably are quite young and haven't had much life experience. Never been to war. Probably never seen death by violence. People in NY had a big shock, and some of them are still troubled by it. That's understandable. What is curious though is that many with your perspective cry for the war based on 9/11 and how horrible it was, yet when one of those affected states how they feel they are spouting liberal bullshit and lies.

Tell me, does the political philosophy of someone in NYC affected directly by 9/11 validate or invalidate their loss?

Seems to me people in the North and South should get to know each other before they think of the other as they do the "enemy" Iraqis, if it isn't too late already.
 

CocoMunkee

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Waaaaaaaaaah. Enough already. Do yourself a favor & move to Canada. Your pretty close by. Wait, I rather you stay so you can continue to support those liberal candidates and make them feel that they have a chance. My bad. :laugh:
 

gutharius

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Originally posted by: CocoMunkee
Waaaaaaaaaah. Enough already. Do yourself a favor & move to Canada. Your pretty close by. Wait, I rather you stay so you can continue to support those liberal candidates and make them feel that they have a chance. My bad. :laugh:

Makes me wish there was such a thing as electroshock therapy for the terminally mentally incompitant and heartless.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: CocoMunkee
Waaaaaaaaaah. Enough already. Do yourself a favor & move to Canada. Your pretty close by. Wait, I rather you stay so you can continue to support those liberal candidates and make them feel that they have a chance. My bad. :laugh:

Definently! I would prefer Canada over my current place, which is Afghanistan, but i would prefer home in Germany more.

I hope that is ok with you mein führer?
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: gutharius
Originally posted by: CocoMunkee
Waaaaaaaaaah. Enough already. Do yourself a favor & move to Canada. Your pretty close by. Wait, I rather you stay so you can continue to support those liberal candidates and make them feel that they have a chance. My bad. :laugh:

Makes me wish there was such a thing as electroshock therapy for the terminally mentally incompitant and heartless.
It would take 3 amps to fry out something as stupid as that, at 40kv

Or as metallica would put it, burn mothervfcker burn!
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I figured there are plenty of anti-bush threads out there at any point. This is from a bit more of a personal view of events Klixxer.
If he starts a draft for Iran you better be sure I will be posting about it and be on the streets.

If he starts a draft for an invasion of Iran i will be at home laughing my ass of at those experiencing what i have been doing for quite some time, and especially laughing at those who have been voting for him.

I won't be there, i am going home from Afghanistan within days and this is my last tour.

Canada is not far and if you decide you want to go for Germany, i'll do my best to set you up.

I hope the day I would have to leave San Francisco will never come.
Thanks for the offer though. But I won't let them build my neighborhood full of Starbucks
and fast food drive thrus and turn my home into a corprate republican wasteland like the rest of America. (Except NYC and the other down older cities of USA mostly Eastside.) Someone has to be here to fight the good fight in the city.
(Anyhow there are not too many "red staters" here.)
Matter of fact I'd say we have more Europeans around here then people from the smaller states of USA
SF city peeps, the East Bay crew and the Europeans here = an actual world view, and generally mellow and cool people
(for the time being unless the cops start provoking people again)
I just worry about our Bridges and the Downtown area (Which SF is all downtown mostly including where I live) and the regular stuff (earthquakes)
But if we do get bombed becasue of the wackos in the boondocks this is a VERY reinforced city.
My house has HUGE bolts through it every few feet to reinforce its structure.
I don't think the people in smaller places live with this reality in the same way and think about these things as much seeing their voting decisions and readiness to go to war.
It's the cities and the people in them that suffer the most in war, any war.

BTW we have NOTHING for terrorism being a resident of the city of San Francisco.
They closed down our naval bases
We don't even have a cannon protecting the SF bay anymore in case someone wanted to unload a few ships on the west coasts biggest port.
Let's not even get into that stuff about searching what is coming in endlessly from HUGE ocean liners every day in the bay. Have any of you from the red states ever SEEN a REAL ocean liner? They are HUGE!
bigger then anything you will ever see in a land locked area. Full of ???????????????? right to my front door.
Some great job Bush is doing protecting us. :shocked:
 

imported_KirbsAw

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Originally posted by: CocoMunkee
Waaaaaaaaaah. Enough already. Do yourself a favor & move to Canada. Your pretty close by. Wait, I rather you stay so you can continue to support those liberal candidates and make them feel that they have a chance. My bad. :laugh:

What the hell is wrong with you?
 

Infohawk

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The part that is saddest is that this liberal makes bank as do many many other liberals and has to hear red-state welfare hypocrites whine about high taxes and how liberals are lazy.