An English question

HeXploiT

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If "it's" is always "it is", can "it is" always be converted to "it's"?
 

HeXploiT

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Are you sure? I used this sentance in another thread this morning:

"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow it is an excellent idea".

It occured to me that if you replaced the "it is" with "it's",

"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow it's an excellent idea".

...it just doesn't sound correct.
 

ragazzo

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That's because your sentence is incomplete.

"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow..."

Allow what?


"At any rate, using this process in another system that does allow it, then it is an excellent idea".

 

toekramp

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Originally posted by: ragazzo
That's because your sentence is incomplete.

"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow..."

Allow what?


"At any rate, using this process in another system that does allow it, then it is an excellent idea".

bingo
 

Steve

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"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow it, is an excellent idea".


Comma usage ;)
 

biostud

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Originally posted by: Perry404
Are you sure? I used this sentance in another thread this morning:

"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow it is an excellent idea".

It occured to me that if you replaced the "it is" with "it's",

"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow it's an excellent idea".

...it just doesn't sound correct.


"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow it, is an excellent idea".

(I'm not too sure about english grammar though)
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Perry404
Are you sure? I used this sentance in another thread this morning:

"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow it is an excellent idea".

It occured to me that if you replaced the "it is" with "it's",

"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow it's an excellent idea".

...it just doesn't sound correct.

It's correct, but sometimes one way sounds better than the other.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Perry404
Are you sure? I used this sentance in another thread this morning:

"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow it is an excellent idea".

It occured to me that if you replaced the "it is" with "it's",

"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow it's an excellent idea".

...it just doesn't sound correct.

It's correct, but sometimes one way sounds better than the other.
Agreed. The subject of your sentence is "using this process in another system that does allow it"
 

jalaram

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Perry404
Are you sure? I used this sentance in another thread this morning:

"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow it is an excellent idea".

It occured to me that if you replaced the "it is" with "it's",

"At any rate using this process in another system that does allow it's an excellent idea".

...it just doesn't sound correct.

It's correct, but sometimes one way sounds better than the other.
Agreed. The subject of your sentence is "using this process in another system that does allow it"


Agreed. "It is" contracts to "it's" when "It" is the subject and "is" is the verb. In Perry404's example, "it" is the object in the subject. The subject is "using ..." (which I believe is a gerund?).

 

HeXploiT

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So then would it be correct to say that "it is" can always replace "it's" and vise versa?

 

Mathlete

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No

You can't use it's because you need a comma in there. What are you going to use it',s.


Correct: At any rate, using this process in another system that does allow it, is an excellent idea
 

archcommus

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Originally posted by: Perry404


So then would it be correct to say that "it is" can always replace "it's" and vise versa?
No, it would not be, because "it" is PART of the subject.
 

archcommus

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Originally posted by: Mathlete
No

You can't use it's because you need a comma in there. What are you going to use it',s.


Correct: At any rate, using this process in another system that does allow it, is an excellent idea
That's actually wrong, no commas are needed. It's just like saying "At any rate, using is an excellent idea," only with extra words after "using" to further clarify the subject.
 

Mathlete

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I was pretty sure that all conjuncts had to be separated from the sentence using a comma. Well, unless you have the conjunct in the middle then you can use a semicolon.
 

Mathlete

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Srry my bad. I thought you were saying that no comma was needed after at any rate. After rereading your post, I think you are correct.