An car feature I didn't think I'd grow to like this much

Exterous

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Keyless entry and start. After a year with a car that has it I now get annoyed when I get stuck with a rental that doesn't.

"I can't just be close to the car and it unlocks for me? What flaming piece of shit did I get stuck with?!"
"Now I have to shove a metal rectangle with squiggles on it into the car?! Why should my key ever leave my pocket! This is ruining my life!!"
 
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Red Squirrel

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I hate this concept from a security perspective. When stuff like this is designed rarely is security taken into consideration. Now thieves can break into cars using an arduino without leaving any damage, and insurance won't cover it because they'll just say you left your doors unlocked. I can see how it would be convenient though such as when your hands are full and it's winter so you have mitts on, and it saves you from trying to fumble around for keys.
 

NoTine42

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Yeah, digging keys out of my pocket always feels uncivilized after a while of keyless entry.

I also feel that way after a hotel stay with keyless entry (Like Disney with the magic band on my wrist, or a hotel with a remote entry app)
 

ultimatebob

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I hate this concept from a security perspective. When stuff like this is designed rarely is security taken into consideration. Now thieves can break into cars using an arduino without leaving any damage, and insurance won't cover it because they'll just say you left your doors unlocked. I can see how it would be convenient though such as when your hands are full and it's winter so you have mitts on, and it saves you from trying to fumble around for keys.

What kind of shitty insurance company would deny your insurance claim because they think that you left your car doors unlocked? Universal/Programmable car remotes have been around for years now, and they used one to break into my wife's car years ago. State Farm didn't think twice about covering that claim.
 

brianmanahan

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An car feature

i agree, i have had keyless entry for 5 years and car keys seem like caveman tools now
 

GagHalfrunt

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I can't wait til every car has it. Then when some asshole cuts off another asshole in traffic asshole #2 can follow asshole #1 to where they're going, wait for them to get inside the mall/restaurant/workplace and then move the car to a handicapped spot.
 

Red Squirrel

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What kind of shitty insurance company would deny your insurance claim because they think that you left your car doors unlocked? Universal/Programmable car remotes have been around for years now, and they used one to break into my wife's car years ago. State Farm didn't think twice about covering that claim.

I just heard that they don't cover if you left your doors unlocked. If there's no damage then they have no proof of that. Same with cops, they don't do anything about theft unless there was forced entry. It's gotten so bad here that it's practically legal to steal from unlocked cars as if you try to report it they'll just tell you tough luck, should have locked it.
 
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purbeast0

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Yeah it is awesome. It sucks when the button on your door starts to not work though. I barely lock my car now because of it. Using the key is too much effort.

The other thing I miss big time when in rental cars is backup cameras. I don't think my neck turns around enough to not use cameras anymore since I don't have to do it.
 

NoTine42

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Yeah it is awesome. It sucks when the button on your door starts to not work though. I barely lock my car now because of it. Using the key is too much effort.

The other thing I miss big time when in rental cars is backup cameras. I don't think my neck turns around enough to not use cameras anymore since I don't have to do it.
That and the general high trunk-line look car designers only get away with because of backup cameras and sensors result in less visibility when looking backwards.
 

ultimatebob

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I just heard that they don't cover if you left your doors unlocked. If there's no damage then they have no proof of that. Same with cops, they don't do anything about theft unless there was forced entry. It's gotten so bad here that it's practically legal to steal from unlocked cars as if you try to report it they'll just tell you tough luck, should have locked it.

I found that the best way to avoid getting your car broken into is to not live in a high crime neighborhood. Once I got out of city, my car breakin and vandalism issues disappeared.

I had no idea that Canadian cities were such hot beds of crime! I thought that you guys vented all of your anger on the ice at the hockey game.
 

Viper GTS

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Three of my four cars have it, can confirm that you adapt remarkably quickly.

The confusing thing now is cars that lock automatically when you walk away (my CX-5) vs those that require you to touch the handle (C-Max and Focus RS).

With the Viper keys feel like an appropriate part of the old school charm, but rentals/other modern cars I encounter definitely seem a little off when I have to worry about anything beyond pushing a button.

Viper GTS
 

JulesMaximus

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Keyless entry and start. After a year with a car that has it I now get annoyed when I get stuck with a rental that doesn't.

"I can't just be close to the car and it unlocks for me? What flaming piece of shit did I get stuck with?!"
"Now I have to shove a metal rectangle with squiggles on it into the car?! Why should my key ever leave my pocket! This is ruining my life!!"

I try to only rent luxury cars now. I lucked out in Orlando last month and got a brand new BMW 740i. Car had less than 300 miles on it. What a sweet ride that is!
 
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Red Squirrel

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I found that the best way to avoid getting your car broken into is to not live in a high crime neighborhood. Once I got out of city, my car breakin and vandalism issues disappeared.

I had no idea that Canadian cities were such hot beds of crime! I thought that you guys vented all of your anger on the ice at the hockey game.

Lol here the criminals go for the "higher end" neighborhoods. They are more likely to have good stuff. But realy they don't discriminate. There is a drug ring in my city and they check every car every night. I think everyone just covers their own block and they go at it. Most of them don't bother if it's locked, they just go to each house and check all the doors.

Sadly crime has been going up here as this was never an issue.
 
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Exterous

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I try to only rent luxury cars now. I lucked out in Orlando last month and got a brand new BMW 740i. Car had less than 300 miles on it. What a sweet ride that is!

Thats one of the reasons I like national especially when I was renting out of LAX frequently. It got to the point where a 10k mi Camaro was my fallback 'well I guess I'm stuck with one of these again'
 

dullard

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Great feature, but I really need to figure out how to program my Toyota Camry to unlock ALL doors, not just the driver's door. Because whenever I have passengers, I still have to either (a) dig through my pocket to find the fob and the right button or (b) the passengers are angry that they have to wait for me to get to the door, open it, and then press then unlock button. First world problem, I know.

Not too long ago, I found a great keyless entry feature that I didn't know I had. I was going on a business trip and minutes before leaving we agreed to carpool in someone else's car. To avoid TSA troubles, I tossed the keys into my suitcase. Then just as we were leaving that carpool plan fell apart. No problem, I can still drive. Without thinking, I threw my suitcase into my trunk, went to the driver's door and tried to open it. Panic ensued for a short bit, as I had no key and it wouldn't let me in. But, the great feature is that it sensed the key in the trunk and didn't lock the trunk. I could still open the trunk and get my key out of the suitcase.
 

IronWing

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The car feature I like is wing vents, and they don't use them anymore :^(
Give me back wing vents and a floor switch for the brights and I'd be a happy driver. Ford vans used to have a door under the dash on the passenger side that, when opened, was a direct vent to the front. The breeze would howl through that thing, twas great.
 
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PricklyPete

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Agreed, our last 4 cars (including the current 2) have it and when I drive a car that doesn’t, just feels awkward.

Latest 3 features that are growing on me:

1) heated steering wheel - I LOVE this feature

2) 360 parking cameras/sensors -just make parking in the city way more convenient

3) HUD - never look down anymore for speed, changing songs, or navigation info
 

Capt Caveman

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I just heard that they don't cover if you left your doors unlocked. If there's no damage then they have no proof of that. Same with cops, they don't do anything about theft unless there was forced entry. It's gotten so bad here that it's practically legal to steal from unlocked cars as if you try to report it they'll just tell you tough luck, should have locked it.

You're an idiot.
 

Kaido

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Three of my four cars have it, can confirm that you adapt remarkably quickly.

The confusing thing now is cars that lock automatically when you walk away (my CX-5) vs those that require you to touch the handle (C-Max and Focus RS).

With the Viper keys feel like an appropriate part of the old school charm, but rentals/other modern cars I encounter definitely seem a little off when I have to worry about anything beyond pushing a button.

Viper GTS

Yeah, my Jeep has the gen1 keyless...it unlocks when you walk up & touch the door handle, but to lock it, you have to press the little button on the door handle when you leave. The newer gen2 stuff auto-locks as you walk away. It really is amazing how fast you become accustomed to convenience!

My Jeep also came with a heated steering wheel, which I thought was a super flaky feature until winter came. My hands get mega-cold in the winter & having a heated steering wheel is gloooooooooorious. I can never go back, hahaha.
 

rh71

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Have had it for 10 years and still love it. My wife's car uses keys and I've been known to complain about it. But she has remote start and I don't. An extension to this would be keyless house entry (they're all still too ugly for us to jump onboard).

What I REALLY want is active cruise control for traffic on highways. Uses radar to move/stop so all you have to do is steer. Anyone have it? Even better coming to a future near you, autonomous driving - especially useful for traffic.

I found that the best way to avoid getting your car broken into is to not live in a high crime neighborhood. Once I got out of city, my car breakin and vandalism issues disappeared.

We're in a very safe suburb here but the drug addicts (adults and kids alike) go around opening people's car doors at night looking for cash/change anyway. Police say it's very common even here.
 
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lxskllr

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Give me back wing vents and a floor switch for the brights and I'd be a happy driver. Ford vans used to have a door under the dash on the passenger side that, when opened, was a direct vent to the front. The breeze would howl through that thing, twas great.
I had one of those for work. It was indeed glorious. Simple and effective.
 

Bubbleawsome

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My keyless entry isn't the new kind where you just walk up, I have a button on the door. It's still really nice though, and I streamline it by pressing the button to let myself in but using the fob to lock it while I walk away. Very easy.
What I REALLY want is active cruise control for traffic on highways. Uses radar to move/stop so all you have to do is steer. Anyone have it? Even better coming to a future near you, autonomous driving - especially useful for traffic.
I've got ACC. Again, not a super nice system (it's a 2011 Hyundai) but it does the job for sure. Following and crusing are both easy with it, but every now and then while crusing it'll see the car in front of me going slower, but not slow down by letting off the gas and instead using the brakes. If you just pulled out from behind a slower car and are in the gas that can be kind of jarring. It is very good though, has never missed a car or seen one when there wasn't one, just it kind of likes brakes and gas, not coasting.