An AOL "Blast from the Past"

Pegun

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No happening. Random EXE posted on a forum? That should be grounds for a banning whether its a virus or not.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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LOL- I had that file! It's safe. Back in the olden days before your fancy Internets was around, people would download their jokes in .exe form from bulletin boards via 28.8K modem while their parents would always yell at you because the phone was busy.
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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No happening. Random EXE posted on a forum? That should be grounds for a banning whether its a virus or not.

I've got like 14,000 posts. Ya think I waited til now to put up an infected file?
And its hosted on my web site.

In fact, I used to put this on every computer where the customer was running AOL for like 5 years starting back in 1998.
 

sswingle

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Mar 2, 2000
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I live life on the edge and went ahead and downloaded it. No virus according to AVG.

However, the content was rather boring.
 

techs

Lifer
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no thanks. It's probably safe, but I'm not taking a chance.

I guess iFX killed this thread. It's a shame because its absolutely hysterical.
One of the top five things I have seen on the internet over the last 13 years.
In fact, I am pretty sure I posted it in ATOT years ago.
 

microAmp

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Jul 5, 2000
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Ran the file through VirusTotal.com, 2 hits out of 41...

Antiy-AVL 2.0.3.7 2010.02.19 Trojan/JS.Agent.gen
Jiangmin 13.0.900 2010.02.20 Trojan/JS.bvl
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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Ran the file through VirusTotal.com, 2 hits out of 41...

Antiy-AVL 2.0.3.7 2010.02.19 Trojan/JS.Agent.gen
Jiangmin 13.0.900 2010.02.20 Trojan/JS.bvl

Yeah, 41 antivirus programs scanned it and, despite the fact the file is over 12 years old only 2 av's I never heard of say they found a trojan.

I have never heard of Jiangmin or Antiy-AVL. Hmm. Interesting its the two Chinese av's.

EVERY other av, including every one I have ever heard of found it safe:
Avast, AVG, BitDefender, F-Prot, Comodo, Mcafee, Microsoft, NOD32, SunBelt, Symantec, Trend Micro, etc, etc, etc.

Cleary the Chinese AV's are doing something wrong. Or they are lying to try and get you to buy their AV.
 

sswingle

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Mar 2, 2000
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Yeah, 41 antivirus programs scanned it and, despite the fact the file is over 12 years old only 2 av's I never heard of say they found a trojan.

I have never heard of Jiangmin or Antiy-AVL. Hmm. Interesting its the two Chinese av's.

EVERY other av, including every one I have ever heard of found it safe:
Avast, AVG, BitDefender, F-Prot, Comodo, Mcafee, Microsoft, NOD32, SunBelt, Symantec, Trend Micro, etc, etc, etc.

Cleary the Chinese AV's are doing something wrong. Or they are lying to try and get you to buy their AV.

Not to mention that fact that when I search Symantec's database, they seem to have never heard of the viruses those chinese softwares supposedly found.
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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Yeah, 41 antivirus programs scanned it and, despite the fact the file is over 12 years old only 2 av's I never heard of say they found a trojan.

I have never heard of Jiangmin or Antiy-AVL. Hmm. Interesting its the two Chinese av's.

EVERY other av, including every one I have ever heard of found it safe:
Avast, AVG, BitDefender, F-Prot, Comodo, Mcafee, Microsoft, NOD32, SunBelt, Symantec, Trend Micro, etc, etc, etc.

Cleary the Chinese AV's are doing something wrong. Or they are lying to try and get you to buy their AV.

Not to mention that fact that when I search Symantec's database, they seem to have never heard of the viruses those chinese softwares supposedly found.

Yeah, I am going to post a thread on this in the security forum.
EDIT:
Done. Posted on it in this thread:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=29401856#post29401856
 
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techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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LOL- I had that file! It's safe. Back in the olden days before your fancy Internets was around, people would download their jokes in .exe form from bulletin boards via 28.8K modem while their parents would always yell at you because the phone was busy.

Ah, someone who remembers dial up!
Yeah, the file was somewhat widespread back then. I have saved it all these years.
 

Praxis1452

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Jan 31, 2006
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Ran the file through VirusTotal.com, 2 hits out of 41...

Antiy-AVL 2.0.3.7 2010.02.19 Trojan/JS.Agent.gen
Jiangmin 13.0.900 2010.02.20 Trojan/JS.bvl

You go with the majority on virustotal. Even completely legitimate files that you know are clean often have false positives on virustotal. I keep my eye on the well known AV's and the total number. 2/41 with AV's the no one as ever heard of is clean. Personally, unless a major AV detects it, or it's greater than like 10/41 it is usually clean.
 

Exterous

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Jun 20, 2006
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I've got like 14,000 posts. Ya think I waited til now to put up an infected file?
And its hosted on my web site.

In fact, I used to put this on every computer where the customer was running AOL for like 5 years starting back in 1998.

Your dedication to your virus spreading cause is impressive.

:hmm:

Be wear the sleeper cells - they are activating!
 

destrekor

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Nov 18, 2005
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file is safe

and :biggrin:

I remember how stoked I was to have the AOL 6.0 and 7.0 betas. :D
 

destrekor

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Nov 18, 2005
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Passed MSSE. Very annoying though. ;)

Yep that's what I have used too. It has a very very good set of virus definitions.

If I still had Comodo I'd run it against that. It's heuristics database system was just absolutely maddening. Cannot possibly imagine the total number of false-positives that thing had because of heuristics scanning... the number of trojans or some odd type of malware, all of which I've never heard of, were just alarming. Plus it's virus scanner just wasn't all that great. Found the real stuff from before I was more conscious about security, at least, I think could have been real... could have been more false-positives. It's firewall was where it was at, but then I've started realizing, firewalls are almost useless. It's mainly designed to keep unwanted things from going out, and well at that point it's already bad and can change security files anyhow. Windows Firewall does a great job on that front, and just keeping malware off the system is the important task. Windows Firewall plus MS Security Essentials is the most friendly and best combination I've really decided on. But the amount of system resources required is just plain minimal.

But if I had to have a different AV scanner, it would be eset. That program just rocks. But I find no reason to clamor for it when MSSE is doing the same task.

I was super leery of downloading such a file but figured since no other programs detected anything, I was fine. And if the latest definitions in MSSE couldn't detect it, it really can't be anything.