An AMD 3400+ newcastle skt 754

[Fistandantilis]

I may be getting one of these on a msi nforce3 250 (i think) is this a good set up also it will have a gig of the ems 3200 ram.
thanks

jawshuwa

 

[sangyup81]

get the DFI nForce3 if you are overclocking

and are you getting a 1gb stick or 2x512mb stick?

 

[Fistandantilis]

I am not sure, what is the difference?

 

[sangyup81]

?????

either you get 1 stick with 1gb in it or 2 sticks with 512mb in it

 

[zizo]

why 754? I have same set up and I've seen venice 3000+ chips are performing better than my rig after overclocking to 2600mhz. Not to mention mine is at 2700mhz.

 

[imported_g33k]

The 3400+ is a nice chip if you are not planning on overclocking. The 3400+ is the best bang for your buck chip at stock. Just be aware that this chip will not overclock much. You may be able to get to 2500mhz.

If you are going to overclock get a 3200+ venice and you can get to 2600mhz+ with dual channel ram.

 

[Amaroque]

I bought a S754 NC 3400+, ASUS K8N-E for a second computer. I wasn't expecting much in the OC department, but the CPU clocks to 2.6GHz on 1.55 Vcore (DC 24/7).

However, I find it difficult to recomend a S754 setup as a main rig.

 

[shock311]

Yes, it all depends on what you want right now, I myself have a 2800 newcastle OC to 2.4, and it suits me just fine, I'll eventually have to upgrade the video card, thats if they continue to use AGP but until AGP fades away, I dont see a necessary upgrade. Go for it, especially if its a good price.

 

[Zap]

Well, for those five people on the forums who don't overclock, or the 5000 people on the forums who want to build a system for someone and don't want to be tech support for an overclocked rig...

I say the OEM 3400+ is a good buy for those Joe Sixpacks (with apologies to overclockers.com) looking for a fast system for these reasons:
- True clock speed of 2.4GHz makes for a fast A64.
- $175 for the OEM chip at various vendors.
- Not a good idea to overclock a Joe Sixpack machine, so .09 cores are not as important.
- Most Joe Sixpacks do NOT upgrade their systems for many years... by then even socket 939 will be obsolete so lack of upgrade path is not a reason to avoid this chip.
- The 3% performance loss (number pulled from any available orifice) from not being dual channel more than made up for by price difference between this chip and any socket 939 chip that runs 2.4GHz true speed.
- Various motherboards are available for any need, mATX, integrated video, AGP, PCI-E.
- Motherboards seem cheaper than socket 939 variants.

What's the performance difference between a s754 3400+ (true 2.4GHz, single channel) and a s939 3500+ (true 2.2GHz, dual channel)? Anyone have numbers? Not talking overclocked speeds, but complete default speeds with same hardware.

What I'm trying to say is that (overclocking aside) $175 for a 2.4GHz A64 is a better value than $265 for a 2.2GHz A64.

 

[rhk0327]

Originally posted by: Zap
Well, for those five people on the forums who don't overclock, or the 5000 people on the forums who want to build a system for someone and don't want to be tech support for an overclocked rig...

LOL

I regret my 754, =*( I'm comtemplating upgrading again(2 upgrades in one year = $$) and eating the cost now to get pci-e and 939.

 

[MrKneecap]

I've had a 3400+ s754 and a 6800GT churning away happily in my rig for a year now. I don't see the need to upgrade, this computer will easily last another year for gaming. (BF2 plays great at medium/high settings, who *needs* a 7800GTX?)

 

[Heckler 5th]

like sangyup81 said, the dfi 250gb is the best when it comes to overclocking the 754. however, if you're not prepared or interested in diving into the deepest, most complex BIOS available, avoid the DFI. a good friend of mine has that msi board you're looking at and it's been 100% stable for him so far.

for less $ than the 3400 newc', i suggest these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103560 (no cooler)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819104231 (a little light on the cache but new rev.E core. OC the heck outta it!)

the rev.E mobiles are on the way, tho. where the hell are they already? shentech has been the only place to get em for awhile now, dangit!