An amazing numbers visual on WWII deaths

lxskllr

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Thank Eris for war. Imagine what your morning commute would be like without WWII
 

John Connor

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Yeah, there's been a lot and I mean A LOT of stuff that came about due to war, mostly WWII. Nylon, T-shirts, penicillin, nuclear energy and the list goes on.
 

OutHouse

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that was intersting, thanks for posting.

i was watching some show a few weeks ago about Caesar and his rampage in Europe. one stat they put up that in today's numbers he killed 50 million just in France.
 

MongGrel

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I came I saw I conquered.

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I might change that to Dipshit soon, at this rate.

You drink White Russian coffee additive straight and think it's cool.

Bit pathetic in it's own right.
 
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IndyColtsFan

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Just think, that 70 million is an estimate. I've seen estimates as high as 100 million, though 70-80 million is probably pretty accurate.

Anyway, my grandfather fought in the Battle of the Bulge and captured a German officer. He took the officer's sidearm as a souvenir and it is currently at my mom's house. It is a pretty cool thing to have. :D
 

John Connor

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Just think, that 70 million is an estimate. I've seen estimates as high as 100 million, though 70-80 million is probably pretty accurate.

Anyway, my grandfather fought in the Battle of the Bulge and captured a German officer. He took the officer's sidearm as a souvenir and it is currently at my mom's house. It is a pretty cool thing to have. :D


Is it a Ruger?
 

destrekor

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Thank Eris for war. Imagine what your morning commute would be like without WWII

You know, I am curious where we'd be without the war.

Our population boom happened as a direct result of the post-war economy boost that was entirely driven by the war economy of a nation entirely dedicated to war.

I don't know if our economy would have been nearly as good in the 50s and 60s without that war. That massive boost to the economy is what made it feel possible to have more children.
 

luv2liv

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hard to believe some people think the Holocaust never took place because they were not there to witness.
strangely these same people think god exists even though nobody was there to witness.
 

lxskllr

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You know, I am curious where we'd be without the war.

Our population boom happened as a direct result of the post-war economy boost that was entirely driven by the war economy of a nation entirely dedicated to war.

I don't know if our economy would have been nearly as good in the 50s and 60s without that war. That massive boost to the economy is what made it feel possible to have more children.

Hard to say how that would've turned out. We don't get do-overs. No WWII, no Israel, no Trade Center attack? In any case, it would be a different world.
 

zinfamous

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that was intersting, thanks for posting.

i was watching some show a few weeks ago about Caesar and his rampage in Europe. one stat they put up that in today's numbers he killed 50 million just in France.

ah, OK. at first I read that, and was thinking..."and you believed that?" There were, maybe, something like 300-500k people, at most, living in France at the time. And I'm probably being generous.

:D
 

bbhaag

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You know, I am curious where we'd be without the war.

Our population boom happened as a direct result of the post-war economy boost that was entirely driven by the war economy of a nation entirely dedicated to war.

I don't know if our economy would have been nearly as good in the 50s and 60s without that war. That massive boost to the economy is what made it feel possible to have more children.

Well it didn't hurt that all the factory's in Europe were in ruins after the war. Remember at the time China was just a back water shit hole with no infrastructure.

So Europe's manufacturing is in ruins and America is pretty much doing good. Making the switch from bombs and tanks to vacuum cleaners and automobiles obviously wasn't that hard. It made us what we are today.
 

destrekor

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Hard to say how that would've turned out. We don't get do-overs. No WWII, no Israel, no Trade Center attack? In any case, it would be a different world.

Man, that would be an interesting fiction scenario to take and run with: what would the world be like today without having had a WW2? What would have transpired to have produced a different war that would be known as WW2, for surely the world superpowers wouldn't have learned to hold peace with the devastating consequences of WW2.
 

JasonCoder

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You know, I am curious where we'd be without the war.

Our population boom happened as a direct result of the post-war economy boost that was entirely driven by the war economy of a nation entirely dedicated to war.

I don't know if our economy would have been nearly as good in the 50s and 60s without that war. That massive boost to the economy is what made it feel possible to have more children.

A large part of the post war economy was linked to Europe owing us all that money from the war loans from two big ones. Lead to families able to have two cars in the garage and a stay at home mother (the 50s). That level of prior unheard of prosperity was then seen as the normal American birthright. Now we toil and endure crushing debt just to approach that level as the rest of the world has recovered.
 

OutHouse

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ah, OK. at first I read that, and was thinking..."and you believed that?" There were, maybe, something like 300-500k people, at most, living in France at the time. And I'm probably being generous.

:D

i know, i meant to hit the rewind on the directv remote but missed and changed channels (God damn it!). i really wanted to hear the % again.
 

MongGrel

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Well it didn't hurt that all the factory's in Europe were in ruins after the war. Remember at the time China was just a back water shit hole with no infrastructure.

So Europe's manufacturing is in ruins and America is pretty much doing good. Making the switch from bombs and tanks to vacuum cleaners and automobiles obviously wasn't that hard. It made us what we are today.

Odd how the times have changed since then also, isn't it.

:p
 

OverVolt

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Yeah, there's been a lot and I mean A LOT of stuff that came about due to war, mostly WWII. Nylon, T-shirts, penicillin, nuclear energy and the list goes on.

Hmm... Nuclear reactors. An important distinction I think. Dem by products.
 

zinfamous

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Hmm... Nuclear reactors. An important distinction I think. Dem by products.

also, he mentioned penicillin as a "war discovery"

Flemming discovered the value of penicillin in 1928 and it was eventually put into use on a large scale in 1942--I am guessing for treating soldiers in combat which makes sense.

But this is not a technology or discovery that happened because of war needs and research. It was initially discovered through pure accident: Flemming just happened to notice that some forgotten petri dish inoculated with staph was not properly stored away, and had hosted a mold colony.

It had been tested and verified through a handful of anecdotal studies, but the only real contribution that one could put on this as a "War discovery" is the need to massproduce the vaccine, which was certainly quite difficult at the time--which started around 1940 or 41.

I would say it's actual merely a result of being a point of interest in the already-established war industrialization process that the UK and US were already well-engaged-in. It's an important point, sure, but the discovery and efficacy of penicillin were not products of war.

I think nuclear energy is a better argument: that French fellow, I forget his name, that first posited the self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction and convinced Einstein to write his letter to Roosevelt, did so under full knowledge that the Nazis were working on the bomb as well--Einstein's argument was that this research is primarily essential, in the present, as a weapon. The theory had been around for some time among theoretical physicists, but the pressure and necessary funds were never greater than that time. One wonders If that research ever would have seen those type of resources if it was not aimed towards beating Hitler.