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Amusing: The story of a family of 6 Al Qaeda members living in Canada.

yllus

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After a meandering existence, the rump of the [Khadr] family has returned to Canada, here to enjoy all the privileges of their pre-existing citizenship and, as necessary, to accuse Canadian authorities of prejudicial, undemocratic treatment. Like, they can't even have their passports back.

The Cast

- Papa Khadr, aka Al Kanadi (The Canadian), purported financier for Al Qaeda, who waltzed on a charge of funding the 1995 bombing of Egypt's embassy in Islamabad (which killed 17) thanks to the intervention of then-prime minister Jean Chrétien. Alas, Ahmed Said Khadr was himself reduced to charred remains in a 2003 firefight with Pakistani police and presumably has gone to his just reward as a martyr.

- Mama Khadr, Maha Elsamnah, has the distinction of giving birth to four sons who have all either trained with Al Qaeda, been severely wounded in service to Al Qaeda, or are presently being detained as suspected soldiers of Al Qaeda.

- Abdurahman Khadr is the eldest son who spun a tissue of lies in a 2003 nationally televised news conference, wherein he described being dumped in Afghanistan by American agents after his release from Guantanamo Bay. Later, Abdurahman admitted that he'd spent years at Al Qaeda training bases in Afghanistan, that his father tried to raise him to become a suicide bomber, and that he'd agreed to spy for the CIA, whereupon he'd been released in Bosnia for the purpose of infiltrating Al Qaeda cells there.

- Abdullah Khadr was last heard from a year ago, when he surfaced briefly to deny rumours that he'd been the suicide bomber who had taken the life of a Canadian soldier in Afghanistan. He is now believed to be in the custody of either American or Pakistani authorities.

- Omar Khadr, at 18, is accused (though not formally indicted) of throwing the grenade that killed a U.S. army medic during an attack on an Al Qaeda stronghold in Afghanistan. The only survivor of that incident, Omar lost an eye during the battle. He is presently at Guantanamo, the only Canadian known to be still held there, and the youngest Gitmo resident.

- Karim Khadr, the baby of the family, is still recovering at the family's Scarborough apartment after being treated at the Hospital for Sick Children, whither he was transferred from Islamabad, thanks to the kindness of Canadian foreign affairs officials. Karim was grievously wounded in the attack that killed his dad.

- Zaynab Khadr, eldest daughter, arrived from Pakistan in February, ostensibly because her mother was lonely. Twice-divorced, Zaynab was honoured to have Osama bin Laden in attendance at one of her weddings in 1999, his presence explained as that of a close family friend.

The Anecdotes

- "I'd love to die like that,'' said [daughter] Zaynab, referring to her father's noble departure from this earth, the way he went down fighting the enemy.

- Addressing the colossal tragedy of 9/11, Zaynab observed that fighting the American government sometimes involves taking lives. Thus, on the subject of mastermind Osama bin Laden: "He really wanted to hit the American people where it will hurt. Not the people, but it. But I mean, sometimes innocent people pay the price. They deserve it. They've been doing it for such a long time. Why shouldn't they feel it once in a while?''

The Irony

None of the Khadrs have been charged with a thing in Canada.

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They apparently live about 10 minutes away from where I used to live in Toronto (the suburb of Scarborough). I'd dispense with the rule of law and ask that they be lynched, but it's probably more useful to keep them under observation like the RCMP no doubt are doing. 😛
 
I think it's sort of amusing that our justice system is this impartial when people are screaming willy-nilly about how constricted and biased our country has become towards Muslims. And yeah, I'm pretty sure that Papa Khadr was rather rich back in the day.
 
I figured they were fairly rich because they apparently had too much time on their hands.

Was Kamir engaged in the fighting that killed his Dad, or is he too young to be a combantent?
 
They killed his dad and shot up Karim, who IIRC was holding a gun or rifle when the police busted the door down. He was 14 or so at the time.
 
It's a very interesting story. I wonder why the Pakistani's let him out of the country? Maybe because of his age?
It is Zaynab who wants her stuff back.

The articles ? including a diary, laptop computer and two discs containing some 90 CDs and DVDs ? did not make it through Customs with Zaynab. A further cache of items was seized on Wednesday when they arrived as a separate shipment.


The possibility remains that Zaynab Khadr? who denies the assertions and says she bought the laptop second-hand ? could be charged with a terrorism-related offence, thus taking her place in the family's risky business.

None of the Khadrs have been charged with a thing in Canada.


Not yet anyway.
 
yllus resorting to quoting The Toronto Star 🙂 Man (or woman), you must be really desperate. What's up? You should be happy that Zaynab has adopted yours and the current administration's point of view that collateral damage is unavoidable and war is war. I mean, what are a ten or a hundred thousand innocent civilians when we can bring our values to these backward barbarians, right? Apparently there are now so many shared values, obviously Bush's "freedom march" is working.
 
Originally posted by: fornax
yllus resorting to quoting The Toronto Star 🙂 Man (or woman), you must be really desperate. What's up? You should be happy that Zaynab has adopted yours and the current administration's point of view that collateral damage is unavoidable and war is war. I mean, what are a ten or a hundred thousand innocent civilians when we can bring our values to these backward barbarians, right? Apparently there are now so many shared values, obviously Bush's "freedom march" is working.
And yllus gets popped for thread crapping in another thread whilst others freely crap on his?

I sure hope the mods are watching.
 
Resorting to quoting The Toronto Star? Uh...how is that desperate? Canada's largest circulation newspaper, and a clearly left-leaning one at that, is no longer a reputable source?

While collateral damage is a fact of life during war, it's nothing to be glorified and I and others certainly would never say "they deserve it". I'm not sure what sources you've been reading to think otherwise.
 
Originally posted by: fornax
yllus resorting to quoting The Toronto Star 🙂 Man (or woman), you must be really desperate. What's up? You should be happy that Zaynab has adopted yours and the current administration's point of view that collateral damage is unavoidable and war is war. I mean, what are a ten or a hundred thousand innocent civilians when we can bring our values to these backward barbarians, right? Apparently there are now so many shared values, obviously Bush's "freedom march" is working.
What's wrong with quoting the Star?...it's a very reputable source.

The article is an Op-Ed --> this should be considered when reading

PS. yllus seldom trolls, and I concur with TLC's comments.
 
Originally posted by: yllus
Resorting to quoting The Toronto Star? Uh...how is that desperate? Canada's largest circulation newspaper, and a clearly left-leaning one at that, is no longer a reputable source?

While collateral damage is a fact of life during war, it's nothing to be glorified and I and others certainly would never say "they deserve it". I'm not sure what sources you've been reading to think otherwise.

We demand absolute proof that these things you've quoted are true. Without proof, everything you've written is just an allegation. All I see on the linked page is black text on a white screen. Anybody could have written that stuff. And the reporter might just be mistaken or might have used unreliable sources.

Show us the proof. We want proof.
 
Originally posted by: shira
We demand absolute proof that these things you've quoted are true. Without proof, everything you've written is just an allegation. All I see on the linked page is black text on a white screen. Anybody could have written that stuff. And the reporter might just be mistaken or might have used unreliable sources.

Show us the proof. We want proof.
- Ask the Pakistani police to view the documentation or remains of Ahmed Said Khadr after aforementioned firefight
- Maha Elsamnah Khadr is a living being in Toronto, immigration officials documented her entrance into the country
- Abdurahman Khadr was on TV, in papers, etc.
- Abdullah Khadr will probably not be seen again in public for a long time, just like the piece says
- Pictures of Omar Khadr and access to him in G-Bay are available, as well as numerous articles written about him
- Karim Khadr, like Maha, is living and breathing in Toronto after being flown here by government request
- Zaynab Khadr was in a Toronto court just the other day
- Zaynab said those things in front of multiple reporters and would not deny saying them if asked again

I realize this is your attempt to draw a parallel to those memos circulating the Internet, but it's a pretty poor one. For one, these are all living, breathing, unanonymous people being quoted. Second, there's a considerable paper trail regarding all of this - unlike a memo which was copied and the originals destroyed in a convenient manner.

If you're going to troll, please - troll intelligently!
 
Originally posted by: yllus
Resorting to quoting The Toronto Star? Uh...how is that desperate? Canada's largest circulation newspaper, and a clearly left-leaning one at that, is no longer a reputable source?

While collateral damage is a fact of life during war, it's nothing to be glorified and I and others certainly would never say "they deserve it". I'm not sure what sources you've been reading to think otherwise.

how dare you resort to linking a reputable paper in P&N.
tabloids, blogs and the new york post only, please.
 
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