Amuse GT-R runs <1 min on Tsukuba

996GT2

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyME0t3ZAeM

This GT-R is tuned relatively lightly, with only an ECU (increasing boost to around 14 PSI), titanium exhaust, Bilstein suspension, aero parts, and weight reduction to around 3680lbs.

Dynos at 585PS (577HP SAE), and ran a 59.739 when driven by Tsuchiya around Tsukuba Circuit...pretty impressive considering this is one of the earliest tuned GT-Rs.

Can't wait to see what MINE's has in store to compete with this one
 

fstime

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Theres no doubt this engine has massive potential.

It's only running 10-11 psi with two decent turbos. A mild ECU tune does plenty without pushing it too far.

Shifts are so quick....
 

sniperruff

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yeah amuse is a decent tuner for civic's and S2000's but i bet Mine's version will blow everyone out of the water.
 

alkemyst

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mine's was listed in the comments.

My friend is going to be the first in the US with Amuse's 380RS kit. Guy has an insane amount of money in his Z. I helped him put on his Craft Square mirrors and front diffuser this weekend.

Those trying to armchair race these are going to be eating crow.

The thing most don't understand about Nissan is almost always the person interested in spirited driving re-tunes the car out of the box. It's always been that way...many don't even take delivery without the modifications done from the start.
 

shabby

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Those turbos must be tiny, they get full boost past 2000rpm. Guess nissan was aiming for the average car guy who wants instant torque.
Still wouldnt mind owning one :)
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: shabby
Those turbos must be tiny, they get full boost past 2000rpm. Guess nissan was aiming for the average car guy who wants instant torque.
Still wouldnt mind owning one :)

WTF?!?!?

do you think it needs bigger?
 

geokilla

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For Amuse to be able to tune the GTR like that, imagine what will happen when Nissan releases V-spec and Vspec II!

Now, we shall wait for Mine's to release their GTR. Let's hope that Mine's will make the car lighter while not compromising its balance.
 

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considering it probably bairly passes emissions as it is. i doubt americans will see anything past the regular model gtr's. on another note. heh, it had to be lightened with more power to make that lap.
 

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Originally posted by: Truenofan
considering it probably bairly passes emissions as it is. i doubt americans will see anything past the regular model gtr's. on another note. heh, it had to be lightened with more power to make that lap.

How would you know if it passes emissions or not?

Also, Nissan has confirmed V-Spec models since the car was announced for production. IIRC the top of the line will be rated at 520hp and a significant weight reduction.

What other car do you know that even comes close to the 1:01.940 time the GTR set in stock form? Now take into consideration their price and get back to me.

Of course they added more power and lowered the weight, how else would it achieve the time it set? Look at the specifications of other cars with similar times...
 

996GT2

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Originally posted by: Truenofan
considering it probably bairly passes emissions as it is. i doubt americans will see anything past the regular model gtr's. on another note. heh, it had to be lightened with more power to make that lap.

The Amuse car retains two catalytic converters and has relatively little engine tuning, so its emissions should not be significantly increased over the stock car.

Pic of exhaust system here...blue-tinged titanium looks pretty sweet
 

Jahee

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
I've played enough Gran Turismo to recognize that that car was seriously hauling around Tsukuba.

Lol! I was thinking the same thing! Remembering trying to smash the 1 minute lap after lap, thats a fast car!
 

shabby

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Originally posted by: 996GT2
The turbos used on the GT-R are IHI made units that are similar in size to the HKS GT2510, which are good for about 300HP in a single turbo SR20DET. Pretty small turbos that indeed spin up quickly.
Pics: http://2009gtr.blogspot.com/20...-get-to-know-your.html

Nice pics, that turbine wheel looks sooo tiny.


Originally posted by: alkemyst

WTF?!?!?

do you think it needs bigger?

Of course, manufacturers these days pick a hp range for a car and basically pick the smallest turbo that will hit the desired hp. Leaving absolutly no room for anybody to increase boost to get some more hp out of it.

Originally posted by: Truenofan
considering it probably bairly passes emissions as it is. i doubt americans will see anything past the regular model gtr's. on another note. heh, it had to be lightened with more power to make that lap.

The gtr will pass emissions no problem, remember its awd so it doesnt go on the rollers, they just test it at idle and 2500rpm.
My modded awd talon passed emission like it was an eco friendly prius, but a wot it was puff the magic dragon.
 

imported_Truenofan

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yeeesh. i don't see why awd cars wouldn't need to do the same tests as other 2wd cars. but thats American emissions standards for you. i thought it would have had to go through the same testing as 2wd cars, thats why i was skeptical of it passing emissions with any more power.
 

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Originally posted by: Truenofan
yeeesh. i don't see why awd cars wouldn't need to do the same tests as other 2wd cars. but thats American emissions standards for you. i thought it would have had to go through the same testing as 2wd cars, thats why i was skeptical of it passing emissions with any more power.

the reason AWD cars don't have to do the test is because the testing centers aren't equipped to handle them ... simple as that.
 
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Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Truenofan
considering it probably bairly passes emissions as it is. i doubt americans will see anything past the regular model gtr's. on another note. heh, it had to be lightened with more power to make that lap.

How would you know if it passes emissions or not?

Also, Nissan has confirmed V-Spec models since the car was announced for production. IIRC the top of the line will be rated at 520hp and a significant weight reduction.

What other car do you know that even comes close to the 1:01.940 time the GTR set in stock form? Now take into consideration their price and get back to me.

Of course they added more power and lowered the weight, how else would it achieve the time it set? Look at the specifications of other cars with similar times...

Hi
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Truenofan
considering it probably bairly passes emissions as it is. i doubt americans will see anything past the regular model gtr's. on another note. heh, it had to be lightened with more power to make that lap.

How would you know if it passes emissions or not?

Also, Nissan has confirmed V-Spec models since the car was announced for production. IIRC the top of the line will be rated at 520hp and a significant weight reduction.

What other car do you know that even comes close to the 1:01.940 time the GTR set in stock form? Now take into consideration their price and get back to me.

Of course they added more power and lowered the weight, how else would it achieve the time it set? Look at the specifications of other cars with similar times...

Hi

The stock Corvette is an awesome car and an awesome value.

That said, it's not in the same league as the GT-R. Sub 4-second 0-60 runs, 11-second quarters, and physics-bending times around technical courses put it in a different class.

There are two ways a Vette hangs with the stock GT-R :

Z06 model with hotshot driver and upgraded tires (Vettes are an expert car for the track, a la 911)

Base model + Roots kit + upgraded tires + expert driver.

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vd...Id=124017/pageNumber=1

"We know you want the numbers and we're not going to waste your time. Neither is Nissan. Its 2009 GT-R hits 60 mph in 3.3 seconds, quicker than the last Dodge Viper, Corvette Z06 and Porsche 911 Turbo we tested. Keep your foot pinned, and after another tap on the upshift paddle it will clear the quarter-mile in 11.6 seconds at more than 120 mph. "

"Predictable, Accessible Handling
Our makeshift test facility at the AMI Airport near Tokyo didn't allow room for lateral acceleration testing on a skid pad. However, we did set up our standard slalom for comparison. Again, we were somewhat thwarted by the less-than-ideal surface, which had unavoidable painted lines crossing the course.

This served as an opportunity to witness the GT-R's striking at-the-limit composure. Blasting across the bumpy painted lines between cones, you get the sense that this is truly a special car. Its chassis remains composed and it goes exactly where it's pointed despite the ugly surface. There's none of the puckering that comes with driving a Vette or Viper this fast through a slalom. Nor is there the sense that the rear-mounted engine of a 911 Turbo is eventually going to find its way to the front.

The Nissan GT-R is versatile, with plenty of control latitude, and the difference between the limit of grip and the limit of control is huge. It's probably the most easily controlled car we've slid sideways between the cones. More importantly, its abilities are far more accessible for the average driver than those of its competition.

At 72.9 mph, it's quicker here than the Z06 and 911 Turbo but can't quite match the huge-tired Viper (74.2 mph). Still, it will be interesting to see how these numbers compare when all three cars are tested at the same place and time. "
 
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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Truenofan
considering it probably bairly passes emissions as it is. i doubt americans will see anything past the regular model gtr's. on another note. heh, it had to be lightened with more power to make that lap.

How would you know if it passes emissions or not?

Also, Nissan has confirmed V-Spec models since the car was announced for production. IIRC the top of the line will be rated at 520hp and a significant weight reduction.

What other car do you know that even comes close to the 1:01.940 time the GTR set in stock form? Now take into consideration their price and get back to me.

Of course they added more power and lowered the weight, how else would it achieve the time it set? Look at the specifications of other cars with similar times...

Hi

The stock Corvette is an awesome car and an awesome value.

That said, it's not in the same league as the GT-R. Sub 4-second 0-60 runs, 11-second quarters, and physics-bending times around technical courses put it in a different class.

There are two ways a Vette hangs with the stock GT-R :

Z06 model with hotshot driver and upgraded tires (Vettes are an expert car for the track, a la 911)

Base model + Roots kit + upgraded tires + expert driver.

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vd...Id=124017/pageNumber=1

"We know you want the numbers and we're not going to waste your time. Neither is Nissan. Its 2009 GT-R hits 60 mph in 3.3 seconds, quicker than the last Dodge Viper, Corvette Z06 and Porsche 911 Turbo we tested. Keep your foot pinned, and after another tap on the upshift paddle it will clear the quarter-mile in 11.6 seconds at more than 120 mph. "

"Predictable, Accessible Handling
Our makeshift test facility at the AMI Airport near Tokyo didn't allow room for lateral acceleration testing on a skid pad. However, we did set up our standard slalom for comparison. Again, we were somewhat thwarted by the less-than-ideal surface, which had unavoidable painted lines crossing the course.

This served as an opportunity to witness the GT-R's striking at-the-limit composure. Blasting across the bumpy painted lines between cones, you get the sense that this is truly a special car. Its chassis remains composed and it goes exactly where it's pointed despite the ugly surface. There's none of the puckering that comes with driving a Vette or Viper this fast through a slalom. Nor is there the sense that the rear-mounted engine of a 911 Turbo is eventually going to find its way to the front.

The Nissan GT-R is versatile, with plenty of control latitude, and the difference between the limit of grip and the limit of control is huge. It's probably the most easily controlled car we've slid sideways between the cones. More importantly, its abilities are far more accessible for the average driver than those of its competition.

At 72.9 mph, it's quicker here than the Z06 and 911 Turbo but can't quite match the huge-tired Viper (74.2 mph). Still, it will be interesting to see how these numbers compare when all three cars are tested at the same place and time. "

I want to see the GTR run Nuerumburg(sp?) The Z06 is still the champ is production cars and.
Don't get me wrong, I Loooooove the GTR R34 "Godizllia's" but technical wizardry comes at a price of reliability.

Plus, WTF, no manual option in the new GTR?
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Truenofan
considering it probably bairly passes emissions as it is. i doubt americans will see anything past the regular model gtr's. on another note. heh, it had to be lightened with more power to make that lap.

How would you know if it passes emissions or not?

Also, Nissan has confirmed V-Spec models since the car was announced for production. IIRC the top of the line will be rated at 520hp and a significant weight reduction.

What other car do you know that even comes close to the 1:01.940 time the GTR set in stock form? Now take into consideration their price and get back to me.

Of course they added more power and lowered the weight, how else would it achieve the time it set? Look at the specifications of other cars with similar times...

Hi

The stock Corvette is an awesome car and an awesome value.

That said, it's not in the same league as the GT-R. Sub 4-second 0-60 runs, 11-second quarters, and physics-bending times around technical courses put it in a different class.

There are two ways a Vette hangs with the stock GT-R :

Z06 model with hotshot driver and upgraded tires (Vettes are an expert car for the track, a la 911)

Base model + Roots kit + upgraded tires + expert driver.

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vd...Id=124017/pageNumber=1

"We know you want the numbers and we're not going to waste your time. Neither is Nissan. Its 2009 GT-R hits 60 mph in 3.3 seconds, quicker than the last Dodge Viper, Corvette Z06 and Porsche 911 Turbo we tested. Keep your foot pinned, and after another tap on the upshift paddle it will clear the quarter-mile in 11.6 seconds at more than 120 mph. "

"Predictable, Accessible Handling
Our makeshift test facility at the AMI Airport near Tokyo didn't allow room for lateral acceleration testing on a skid pad. However, we did set up our standard slalom for comparison. Again, we were somewhat thwarted by the less-than-ideal surface, which had unavoidable painted lines crossing the course.

This served as an opportunity to witness the GT-R's striking at-the-limit composure. Blasting across the bumpy painted lines between cones, you get the sense that this is truly a special car. Its chassis remains composed and it goes exactly where it's pointed despite the ugly surface. There's none of the puckering that comes with driving a Vette or Viper this fast through a slalom. Nor is there the sense that the rear-mounted engine of a 911 Turbo is eventually going to find its way to the front.

The Nissan GT-R is versatile, with plenty of control latitude, and the difference between the limit of grip and the limit of control is huge. It's probably the most easily controlled car we've slid sideways between the cones. More importantly, its abilities are far more accessible for the average driver than those of its competition.

At 72.9 mph, it's quicker here than the Z06 and 911 Turbo but can't quite match the huge-tired Viper (74.2 mph). Still, it will be interesting to see how these numbers compare when all three cars are tested at the same place and time. "

I want to see the GTR run Nuerumburg(sp?) The Z06 is still the champ is production cars and.
Don't get me wrong, I Loooooove the GTR R34 "Godizllia's" but technical wizardry comes at a price of reliability.

Plus, WTF, no manual option in the new GTR?

No manual in the Veyron either. Ultra-high performance + manual is getting rare these days. And unlike the slushy autotragics of most cars, the GT-R shifts *VERY* fast.

Sorry, GT-R > Z06.

Now ZR1 > GT-R, as long as you get the right rubber on it.

BTW, we're talking R35 here, R34 is C5-era.
 

996GT2

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Truenofan
considering it probably bairly passes emissions as it is. i doubt americans will see anything past the regular model gtr's. on another note. heh, it had to be lightened with more power to make that lap.

How would you know if it passes emissions or not?

Also, Nissan has confirmed V-Spec models since the car was announced for production. IIRC the top of the line will be rated at 520hp and a significant weight reduction.

What other car do you know that even comes close to the 1:01.940 time the GTR set in stock form? Now take into consideration their price and get back to me.

Of course they added more power and lowered the weight, how else would it achieve the time it set? Look at the specifications of other cars with similar times...

Hi

The stock Corvette is an awesome car and an awesome value.

That said, it's not in the same league as the GT-R. Sub 4-second 0-60 runs, 11-second quarters, and physics-bending times around technical courses put it in a different class.

There are two ways a Vette hangs with the stock GT-R :

Z06 model with hotshot driver and upgraded tires (Vettes are an expert car for the track, a la 911)

Base model + Roots kit + upgraded tires + expert driver.

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vd...Id=124017/pageNumber=1

"We know you want the numbers and we're not going to waste your time. Neither is Nissan. Its 2009 GT-R hits 60 mph in 3.3 seconds, quicker than the last Dodge Viper, Corvette Z06 and Porsche 911 Turbo we tested. Keep your foot pinned, and after another tap on the upshift paddle it will clear the quarter-mile in 11.6 seconds at more than 120 mph. "

"Predictable, Accessible Handling
Our makeshift test facility at the AMI Airport near Tokyo didn't allow room for lateral acceleration testing on a skid pad. However, we did set up our standard slalom for comparison. Again, we were somewhat thwarted by the less-than-ideal surface, which had unavoidable painted lines crossing the course.

This served as an opportunity to witness the GT-R's striking at-the-limit composure. Blasting across the bumpy painted lines between cones, you get the sense that this is truly a special car. Its chassis remains composed and it goes exactly where it's pointed despite the ugly surface. There's none of the puckering that comes with driving a Vette or Viper this fast through a slalom. Nor is there the sense that the rear-mounted engine of a 911 Turbo is eventually going to find its way to the front.

The Nissan GT-R is versatile, with plenty of control latitude, and the difference between the limit of grip and the limit of control is huge. It's probably the most easily controlled car we've slid sideways between the cones. More importantly, its abilities are far more accessible for the average driver than those of its competition.

At 72.9 mph, it's quicker here than the Z06 and 911 Turbo but can't quite match the huge-tired Viper (74.2 mph). Still, it will be interesting to see how these numbers compare when all three cars are tested at the same place and time. "

I want to see the GTR run Nuerumburg(sp?) The Z06 is still the champ is production cars and.
Don't get me wrong, I Loooooove the GTR R34 "Godizllia's" but technical wizardry comes at a price of reliability.

Plus, WTF, no manual option in the new GTR?

No manual in the Veyron either. Ultra-high performance + manual is getting rare these days. And unlike the slushy autotragics of most cars, the GT-R shifts *VERY* fast.

Sorry, GT-R > Z06.

Now ZR1 > GT-R, as long as you get the right rubber on it.

BTW, we're talking R35 here, R34 is C5-era.

The stock R35 GTR's time on the Nurburgring is 7:38.54 in semi-wet conditions (there are several youtube videos documenting this)

For comparison:
997 GT2: 7:32.02
997 GT3: 7:39
C6 Z06: 7:42.9

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N...eife_fastest_lap_times

That was the stock GT-R's time too...I'd imagine that a tuned version like this Amuse car or the MINE's car would be able to break 7:30 easily with slight suspension adjustments (softened for the N-Ring undulating track).

Also, the GT-R's double clutch transmission is nothing to laugh at. With 2 clutches on tap, one clutch selects any even gear while the other selects any odd gear. That means by the time you shift into second gear, third gear is already pre-selected and ready to go; by the time you shift into third, the other clutch pre-selects fourth and it's ready to go again...consistently lightning-fast shifts every time, which is impossible to achieve with a traditional manual (even racing drivers mis-shift sometimes). Best Motoring did a test of a manual Golf GTI vs. a dual clutch DSG equipped Golf GTI, and the DSG car won in every single test of straight line acceleration.