Question 'Ampere'/Next-gen gaming uarch speculation thread

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Ottonomous

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How much is the Samsung 7nm EUV process expected to provide in terms of gains?
How will the RTX components be scaled/developed?
Any major architectural enhancements expected?
Will VRAM be bumped to 16/12/12 for the top three?
Will there be further fragmentation in the lineup? (Keeping turing at cheaper prices, while offering 'beefed up RTX' options at the top?)
Will the top card be capable of >4K60, at least 90?
Would Nvidia ever consider an HBM implementation in the gaming lineup?
Will Nvidia introduce new proprietary technologies again?

Sorry if imprudent/uncalled for, just interested in the forum member's thoughts.
 

MrTeal

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So, looking back at the 3080 leaked heatsink, that one is definitely two slot and the fan appears to be smaller, more like a 92mm. This seems to be a different heatsink in the same vein, but wow it's massive. It should be quite quiet though, hopefully.

Edit: What's the chance this is just a good photoshop from the previous leaks? A triple slot card that large is just a massive jump.
 

MrTeal

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RTX 2080 Ti was able to be fit in most mITX cases.

No more High-End small form factor builds, I guess... :(
If I'm measuring it right compared to the 267mm 2080 FE, this card is ~326mm long. I had a triple slot dual 290X Devil 13 that weighed 5 lbs and came with a little stick that you used wedged between the card and the bottom of the case for extra support. That card was 305mm long. There's a lot of ATX cases that something like this wouldn't fit in.

This almost has to be fake.
 

Hitman928

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So, looking back at the 3080 leaked heatsink, that one is definitely two slot and the fan appears to be smaller, more like a 92mm. This seems to be a different heatsink in the same vein, but wow it's massive. It should be quite quiet though, hopefully.

Edit: What's the chance this is just a good photoshop from the previous leaks? A triple slot card that large is just a massive jump.

I've never been very good at spotting photoshop fakes if they're even halfway decently done, but it doesn't look like a photshop job to me. I was thinking maybe someone 3d printed it based upon the leaked pictures but who knows.
 

Glo.

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If 3080 and 3090 are both ga102 that is a crazy jump up in price to 3090 for what probably isn’t even a full die
The good news may be, that those prices are actually with 50-100$ price premium for Founders Edition, on all of those GPUs.

SO MSRP for 3060 - 349, 3070 - 499, 3080 - 699, 3090 - 1299.

Reminds us of anything?
 
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Stuka87

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The good news may be, that those prices are actually with 50-100$ price premium for Founders Edition, on all of those GPUs.

SO MSRP for 3060 - 349, 3070 - 499, 3080 - 699, 3090 - 1299.

Reminds us of anything?

Which basically means AIB cards will be the same price. Was very rare to find AIB cards that were cheaper than FE cards.
 

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So yeah, its triple slot...

P.S. It appears that rumors that next gen Nvidia GPUs are a complete power hogs, were complete bollocks, right?
Bloody h..... Well, I'd say that the memory will likely suck a lot of power. They're essentially cooling both sides by the looks of it. That backplate looks thicc - wouldn't be surprised if there were a heatpipe or two.
 

FaaR

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I tell you, it's a dual GPU card. Not joking too much here.
One axial fan isn't enough to cool a modern high end GPU, so no, I don't think so.

Besides, SLI has been murdered by modern graphics rendering techniques, so there's that too. Essentially, don't get hung up on that the fans are on different sides of the cooler. It really doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

There's a lot of ATX cases that something like this wouldn't fit in.
I think it's even worse than this actually, wasn't there a pic showing the aux power connectors were located on the back end of the cooler instead of the top side as per usual? If true, that'd make the board even longer (and thus harder to fit.)

I'm also thinking, with the fin density we see here dust contamination is going to become a real issue. You'll need a decent compressor to clean something like that out, canned air isn't going to budge deeply entrenched dust bunnies in these narrow fin passages...
 

ozzy702

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I'm also thinking, with the fin density we see here dust contamination is going to become a real issue. You'll need a decent compressor to clean something like that out, canned air isn't going to budge deeply entrenched dust bunnies in these narrow fin passages...

I was just thinking the same thing, those things are really tightly space. Unless you're extremely diligent with keeping them clean these things will melt down quickly.
 

Saylick

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This is giving me GTX480 vibes, and that thing was a total power hog for only 15% more performance than the competing Radeon 5870. I truly wonder if we'll see a repeat of that with the RTX3090 being 20-25% faster than the top 80CU RDNA2 Navi card while using 100W more power.

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Edit: Thanks to DiogoDX for the correction. I mean to say 5870, not 4780.
 
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Glo.

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This is giving me GTX480 vibes, and that thing was a total power hog for only 15% more performance than the competing Radeon 4870. I truly wonder if we'll see a repeat of that with the RTX3090 being 20-25% faster than the top 80CU RDNA2 Navi card while using 100W more power.
What if it will be 5% faster while consuming 100-125W of power more?