Question 'Ampere'/Next-gen gaming uarch speculation thread

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CP5670

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Ultimately, you can say that I failed to really place the proper emphasis on the 3080's higher TDP of 320W vs. 250W for the 1080 Ti and 2080 Ti. (3060 Ti = 180W, 3070 = 220W.)
It may also be the particular 3080 model you have. Some of the top end AIB cards seem to have higher voltages and power limits out of the box. I went from a 1080ti ftw3 to a stock model (350W) 3090 and the temperatures are only 2-3C higher on the 3090. I undervolt the 3090 to get a bit more performance (1.8-1.9ghz) at the same power limit, and added an extra heatsink on the backplate to cool down the memory. It runs around 75C with 80% fan speed in the most demanding games.
 

CP5670

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It's going to be like all the EVs that make fake engine sounds. They will have huge coolers to make the card quiet, then add fake fan sounds because gamers want to hear it powering up. :D
 

jpiniero

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3090 Super rumored. A whole 2% more shaders (didn't realize that 3090 was not full) and possibly faster GDDR6X memory. Also 400+ W.
 

gdansk

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3090 Super rumored. A whole 2% more shaders (didn't realize that 3090 was not full) and possibly faster GDDR6X memory. Also 400+ W.
Such a compelling product :rolleyes:
More MSRP wringing.
 

CP5670

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I don't see the point of having both this and the regular 3090, maybe they will discontinue the 3090? Some of the 3090 AIB cards are already over 400W and would be basically identical to this card.
 

Mopetar

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For most people there isn't a point, but there are a small number of people who always want to have the absolute best and will buy this even though they already had a 3090.
 

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Do we know when 2GB GDDR6x modules will be available? A 3090 Super makes slightly more sense to me if they can reduce the number of modules from the unwieldy 24 the 3090 currently has to 'just' 12 on one side of the board.

They'd save a nontrivial amount of power they could use to crank clockspeeds a hair higher, and solve the annoying rear-memory cooling issues at the same time.

(I mean, really they should just do this to all 3090 models, frankly I think the 2-sided memory design and lack of robust cooling is an egregious and unacceptable design flaw.)
 
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psolord

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Since the GA104 die is bigger, doesn't that suggest that the chip could be cooler? Therefore somewhat better?
 

CP5670

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More information coming out on this card:

I'm guessing it's clocked significantly higher than the 3090, as it would be the only way to justify the power requirement.
 

jpiniero

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3080 (Super?) 12 GB possibly coming. We might be in for another round of nVidia indecision on SKUs.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Not that MSRP matters right now...
- Allows NV to charge their board partners more and put more coin in their purse, however.

That GA102 chip NV might have been selling to their AIBs for $200 bucks a pop can now be sold at $300 bucks a pop, and the higher MSRP gives AIBs air cover for the increased cost of all of their other passive components/PCB/etc...
 
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jpiniero

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Now there's talk of GA103 mobile parts coming. I wonder if nvidia will respin so that PCIe 5 is supported, given Alder Lake's release.
 

guidryp

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Now there's talk of GA103 mobile parts coming. I wonder if nvidia will respin so that PCIe 5 is supported, given Alder Lake's release.
That would make no sense, since PCIe 4 offers negligible advantage over PCI3 3. Eventually they will support PCIe 5, but there is no hurry, certainly nothing to delay a part over.
 
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JTsyo

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I had signed up for EVGA's queue on a 3060 back in Feb. It'll be coming on Friday. While it's nice to pay MSRP in this climate still feel like a let down since I paid the same for my 970.
 
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