Every sku of every card continues to sell out near immediately to this day. There's no need for nvidia to stockpile and wait, the 6600 will sell out immediately at launch just like the 3080ti and 3070ti and 3060 did, and the market landscape will still be unchanged.
Yes. That's an extremely dubious claim to me. Why not sell a 3060 now? What's the advantage of delaying the sale a few weeks when there will be more competition? Any gamer buying a 3060 now would be one less buyer interested in the 6600 series regardless.
- Right, but NV could pump out those cards now and actually sell them to people, which would take those people off the market for the 6600XT. Why wait until people have a choice?
3060 Super, and 3060 6 GB released. Thats why they may be stockpiling those GPUs.
I think the point being is that they "are stockpiling" for a launch of new SKUs and this is probably just an effort to have some (more than 10, lol) available at launch at retailers.
The 3060 is only slightly cut. Unless they are going to release a more cut down GA104 it's not going to make much sense to do another model there. The 3060 6 GB does make sense.
3060 - full die with 12 GB VRAM and 329$ price tag, 3060 6 GB - replacing the 12 GB VRAM model with the same die, and 6 GB VRAM, for less money.
They wouldn't do that. If there's a 3060 6 GB it will be further cut or the same as the 12 GB. If they are going to release a full GA106 that would be later.
We'll see. Full die 3060 should be close to 6600XT in performance, but will lose in efficiency.
6600 XT's "MSRP" is probably going to be closer to the 3060 Ti's $399. My guess is $379 given that the 6700 XT's is $479.
Stockpiling the chips suggests that there would not be another SKU added.
If the rumors of next gen are true, then start holding back the 'tears' from now, you'll need them.
The card is likely running at a higher voltage and power limit on the OC bios. The "silent" bios probably puts it on stock voltage and power limit, and shouldn't need to have the power limit reduced further. The high 70s temperatures are normal, although the same as the cheaper AIB models. It's interesting that huge 4 slot cooler doesn't help at all. Not a great design by gigabyte.
i wouldn't call the 3080 being twice as fast as the 1080 (2 generations apart) - "minimal gains".
I wasnt referring to performance gains between generations, but rather to get that extra 5% perf thru extra power draw: since a 3080 can roughly save 100w with undervolting but still keep 95% of its performance. Frankly I think it was originally intended to use lower power, but Nvidia cranked it up to gain a slight edge over RDNA2. They want the perf crown at all costs and power draw be damned.
My Google skills fail me, but has anyone compiled a decent list of what undervolting and underclocking can achieve?
SIlicon does degrade; and given that it's more likely that the old cards would be used for mining... kind of have a feeling that those cards would no longer be stable with undervolting.
Yeah it's tough because the market hoovers up whatever is made, we haven't seen any take on a "3080 Nano" card where they tune it for ~200W or something for SFF use. Presumably some combination of clock speeds and voltages could be combined in that case and we'd probably all think the perf/watt was great.
That was my guess after I realized that I had left it on the OC mode when I ran into the dreaded black screen problem. (I guess I'm lucky it didn't fall into the same state as some of those that were playing New World saw!) I switched it to the Silent mode after that, which is where I performed most of my checks via HWiNFO and made adjustments either via MSI Afterburner or Gigabyte's tool. I didn't even consider checking the values prior to switching the BIOS because I had rather high expectations for such a beefy cooler.
My initial complaint in this regard is that it seems like the 3080 is already close to its performance ceiling, and as a result, it ends up consuming a good chunk of power for little gain. The talk of "minimal gains" is really about the 3080 vs. a 3080 with a reduced power target rather than the 3080 versus a previous generation.
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