From both ends. I've had a couple bad experiences selling cards on eBay, to the point I'd rather bin it than go through the hassle of selling it there.Ebay just isn't worth the hassle anymore. I'd glady pay $50+ more for the same thing here or on Amazon. Plus, all the obvious scam listing drown out the few legitimate ones. Every time I see a good price I get excited and jump in only to see a user with 0 feedback.