Americans... you all confuse me.

[First]

^ Also, locutus12, your claim that China's budget will go further due to lower wages and cheaper materials is ignoring other factors in the U.S.'s favor such as superior weapons quality and training, as well as the ability to rearm at a higher rate due to superior economic realities in the U.S.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: locutus12
it seems all i hear from americans these days with regards to politics is "dang bleeding heart liberals" or "stupid dumb rednecks" presumably denoting Democrats and Republicans...

i was speaking to my good friend in Oklahoma about current political affairs and he spoke about senator Clinton and Obama going for the race to the white house and he was adamant that not only would neither of them win, but it would be a disaster if a democrat got into office :/

now i put it to him that surely there were bigger issues of global importance and that clinton wasnt a bad president, not perfect but not a bad one at all from an outsiders perspective, i mean the US economy had 75Billion dollar surplus, good growth stable taxes and the best medicare provisions the US has had. To which he replied that clinton was a disater due to monica lewinsky...

now this took me back a bit, maybe its because I am not actually an american but regardless of what happens in a politicians private life surely the main argument must be "were they good professionally" and if they were, surely we can ignore private conduct providing no one has been hurt, i mean you wasted millions of dollars trying to impeach the guy for basically cheating on his wife. it was insane, stupid and looked very childish and pointless to the rest of the world, especially here in england, hell if your a politician here and your not drunk and sleeping with your secretary or a rent boy or both then your not a true member of parliament.

my point to this post is this, i get the feeling that your politicians forget that they are not actually republicans or democrats, but that you are all Americans. your all so busy trying to blame one side or the other for the political mistakes of the present that your missing out on a changing future and from what i can see, failing to prepare for it by allowing the global reputation of the USA to slide thus losing potential diplomatic and economic allies.

in 20 years the USA will no longer be the worlds economic driving power, it will no longer be the worlds richest country, and it will no longer be the most affluent country and eventually its military will be surpassed in size and technology. the Chinese, a communist country, will have successfully overtaken the USA in terms of economics, and with the massive workforce to back them up, it is doubtful anyone will be able to top them for a very long time.

Wake up America, the world is changing, the western world needs you need to change with it.

Most americans(and probably all humans) are dumb, ignorant, and are followers. People also have a superiority complex... Their political party, their country, their religion... are all the best! Everyone else MUST be wrong.

It is strange though that some republicans have this mentality that a democrat in office would be horrible.. but HOW MUCH WORSE OFF could we be!? I mean, this administration, even with complete congressional power over 6 years, hasn't produced a single achievement! It is unbelievable just how incompetent they are. One huge failure after the other... but a blowjob was worse!

The problem in the U.S. is that the progressive states(NE, California) have to deal with the redneck(out in the boonies) states where they talk like imbeciles, live in the middle of nowhere with no human contact but the few hicks around them, are super religious as a result, are intolerant, and want things to be slow and backwards, like their life. We are talking about the exact same states that wanted to keep slavery during the civil war. The repercussions of the north winning that war is the continuing struggle with slow progress ever since.

It is ironic that the U.S. was progressive compared to britain during the revolutionary war, but it has completely flipped now. We are considered an arrogant, ignorant, and controlling society.

It may never change at this rate. And it looks to be heading worse every day. The chickenhawks in congress who fled vietnam never learned from their country's mistakes and the fat american public at home on their keyboards want to "fight" an undefineable enemy with footmen. They are so used to reacting to everything without thought and with violence that they know nothing else. They still live in the past. Bankrupt the ME by using alternative fuels and leaving the ME alone..? Nope, we fight people in the desert with footmen and occupy foreign countries while giving guerillas the perfect arena for daily terrorism...

Your friend is from Oklahoma though.. that should have clued you in.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: locutus12
in 20 years the USA will no longer be the worlds economic driving power, it will no longer be the worlds richest country, and it will no longer be the most affluent country and eventually its military will be surpassed in size and technology. the Chinese, a communist country, will have successfully overtaken the USA in terms of economics, and with the massive workforce to back them up, it is doubtful anyone will be able to top them for a very long time.

Wake up America, the world is changing, the western world needs you need to change with it.

WTF! What are you smoking? We ARE the western world, europe is the tag along.

No. We are the single, most powerful, best country on the planet and will remain that way. This kind of euro-elitist crap is what ticks me off. We saved your butts so many times it isn't even funny.

Btw, this is the perfect example of the arrogance, ignorance, and pride that we have to fight against every day to slowly progress in the U.S.

Yeah, America is much bigger economically than the EU and China! America will stay "all powerful" forever! Muahaha! ...fool.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why is it that Eurpoeans are always b!tching about Americans?

Maybe because the U.S. keeps trying to control the world. Maybe because the U.S. has been starting wars and occupying already unstable countries in an unstable region right NEXT DOOR to Europeans!? Maybe because the U.S. supplies the cashflow to keep these same dictators afloat and continues to ignore alternative fuel? Maybe because the U.S. supplied weapons to these same countries.. maybe because we are huge hypocrites in everything we do and the world is starting to get fed up with the superiority complex people here and its leadership have? We help create the U.N. and then ignore it.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: waggy
wow im shocked so many did not know he was impeached. kinda figure with all the news there was on this it would be common knowledge.

Well most people don't know what the word "impeached" means in relation to our government and its officials. That might be one reason.

 

[manicfool]

According to a news tid-bit I heard on NPR this morning, 1/3 of all Brits mistakenly believe a woman can avoid getting pregnant by doing things like "jumping up and down." So it's easy to see why you might be confused.

 

[locutus12]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb

I haven't seen that unofficial $160B Chinese budget listed anywhere on the net or elsewhere, and your official number of $60B is totally off. The highest unofficial estimate for China's military spending that I've seen is $90B, which is much more likely than the $160B figure you claim and certainly much higher than China's official military budget of $35.3B (2006).

Anyway, in pure numbers the 2007 DoD budget is set at $470B. That means China unofficially is outspent by the U.S. government by a factor of 13.3 in official numbers ($470B vs. $35.3B) or a factor of 3.1 if we assume China's defense spending really is as high as you say ($470B vs. $160B). More likely it's $470B vs. $90B, or a factor of 5.2. And this does not count the far higher U.S. intelligence spending (FBI, CIA, NSA, etc.) that is currently classified. Though, in 1998 the intelligence budget was $26.7B before the U.S. classified it and, no doubt, that $26.7B figure has at least doubled in 10 years, due to Bush administration policy as well as the impetus for rearmament as a result of 9/11. Which puts the total U.S. intel/defense budget at $496.7 (07 DoD budget + 98 intel budget), with it being more likely $520B+ adjusted for today's numbers.

in 20 years the USA will no longer be the worlds economic driving power, it will no longer be the worlds richest country, and it will no longer be the most affluent country and eventually its military will be surpassed in size and technology. the Chinese, a communist country, will have successfully overtaken the USA in terms of economics, and with the massive workforce to back them up, it is doubtful anyone will be able to top them for a very long time.

Good lord.

you can good lord all you like, even at your best growth rates of say a constant 3.2%, The US economy cant stay ahead forever.

based on a growth of 9.6% in china for the next 20 years and there is no reason for that not to be sustained given the low value of the yuan, the large work force, the huge production capacity of China and it being the number one exporter of goods in the world, couple all these facts with massive consumer spending and you have a very good recipe for a long period of sustained economic growth.

even if the US manages an optimistic sustained 3% growth of GDP for the next 25 years and even if Chinas growth slows at that 20 year mark by a full percentile, the Chinese economy will still outstrip the US by 2040, you can do the maths yourself, US GDP for feb 2007 = 13.6 Trillion chese 2007 GDP currently 2.7 Trillion. Factor in growth of 3% sustained for the us and 9.6 sustained for china (i know this is a simplistic approach but it gives you a general idea) and drop Chinese GDP by a percentile at the 20 year mark and they will still out strip the US economy by the 30 year mark.


As for the chinese military spending,

CLICK ME

youl see that in 1999 it was already up to 88.9 Billion. you've also conveniently forgotten the scales of economies, i.e. in china you will get more work / resources from 88 billion than you would if you spent it in America.

figures courtesy of GlobalSecurity.org

as a testiment to the advanced technologies the Chinese are working on, they recently knocked one of their old satellites out using a kinetic warhead. now that's hardly old technology.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6289519.stm

Originally posted by: manicfool
According to a news tid-bit I heard on NPR this morning, 1/3 of all Brits mistakenly believe a woman can avoid getting pregnant by doing things like "jumping up and down." So it's easy to see why you might be confused.

That little study was conducted by Coventry university, ranked 37th in the UK, it surveyed 1000 people and decided to apply a blanket assumption to one third of the population. Most people that live in Coventry are not the brightest bulbs in the box it has to be said but jumping up and down or urinating to avoid becoming pregnant ? i don't believe any adult is truly that stupid unless they are mentally deficient.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: locutus12

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb

I haven't seen that unofficial $160B Chinese budget listed anywhere on the net or elsewhere, and your official number of $60B is totally off. The highest unofficial estimate for China's military spending that I've seen is $90B, which is much more likely than the $160B figure you claim and certainly much higher than China's official military budget of $35.3B (2006).

Anyway, in pure numbers the 2007 DoD budget is set at $470B. That means China unofficially is outspent by the U.S. government by a factor of 13.3 in official numbers ($470B vs. $35.3B) or a factor of 3.1 if we assume China's defense spending really is as high as you say ($470B vs. $160B). More likely it's $470B vs. $90B, or a factor of 5.2. And this does not count the far higher U.S. intelligence spending (FBI, CIA, NSA, etc.) that is currently classified. Though, in 1998 the intelligence budget was $26.7B before the U.S. classified it and, no doubt, that $26.7B figure has at least doubled in 10 years, due to Bush administration policy as well as the impetus for rearmament as a result of 9/11. Which puts the total U.S. intel/defense budget at $496.7 (07 DoD budget + 98 intel budget), with it being more likely $520B+ adjusted for today's numbers.

in 20 years the USA will no longer be the worlds economic driving power, it will no longer be the worlds richest country, and it will no longer be the most affluent country and eventually its military will be surpassed in size and technology. the Chinese, a communist country, will have successfully overtaken the USA in terms of economics, and with the massive workforce to back them up, it is doubtful anyone will be able to top them for a very long time.

Good lord.

you can good lord all you like, even at your best growth rates of say a constant 3.2%, The US economy cant stay ahead forever.

based on a growth of 9.6% in china for the next 20 years and there is no reason for that not to be sustained given the low value of the yuan, the large work force, the huge production capacity of China and it being the number one exporter of goods in the world, couple all these facts with massive consumer spending and you have a very good recipe for a long period of sustained economic growth.

even if the US manages an optimistic sustained 3% growth of GDP for the next 25 years and even if Chinas growth slows at that 20 year mark by a full percentile, the Chinese economy will still outstrip the US by 2040, you can do the maths yourself, US GDP for feb 2007 = 13.6 Trillion chese 2007 GDP currently 2.7 Trillion. Factor in growth of 3% sustained for the us and 9.6 sustained for china (i know this is a simplistic approach but it gives you a general idea) and drop Chinese GDP by a percentile at the 20 year mark and they will still out strip the US economy by the 30 year mark.


As for the chinese military spending,

CLICK ME

youl see that in 1999 it was already up to 88.9 Billion. you've also conveniently forgotten the scales of economies, i.e. in china you will get more work / resources from 88 billion than you would if you spent it in America.

figures courtesy of GlobalSecurity.org

as a testiment to the advanced technologies the Chinese are working on, they recently knocked one of their old satellites out using a kinetic warhead. now that's hardly old technology.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6289519.stm

You are projecting out too far and not taking into account the demographic and social problems China is going to face in the future. The one child rule and an aging workforce is going to massively bite them in the ass in the next couple decades. Also, I am very doubtful that you can accurately predict China or the US's growth forward 30 years given how many variables there are, you might as well be throwing darts at numbers on a wall.

Figures on Chinese military spending are always just estimates. The official numbers are of course low. China does have a massive military but they are unable to project power into the region as of yet since it is almost all land based. They are working on their navy, but they are decades behind the western powers or Japan in terms of quantity and sophistication. The fruits of a half century long arms race with the Soviets (who were 10 times the adversary the Chinese are on their best day).

They knocked out their own satellite which they knew the precise orbit of. I congragulate China to recently mastering 20+ year old US military technology.

 

[locutus12]

Originally posted by: K1052

They knocked out their own satellite which they knew the precise orbit of. I congragulate China to recently mastering 20+ year old US military technology.

And thats a good demonstration of the very naivety that i worry about from US politicians. anyone with a telescope and half a brain cell can locate the GPS network satellites Used by the US military just as much as the commercial sector. As for classified military satellites, again not difficult to find, indeed theres so much stuff up there its difficult to hide anything, the only thing you can secure is the purpose and intention of a satellite.

this whole ethos of "America is the greatest, no one can touch us, we will never fall from the top spot" is just plain wrong, its been seen hundreds of times throughout history. two prime examples, the British empire, the largest empire ever, technologically superior to all others, economically better than all other nations. It fell. The Roman Empire was a hundred years ahead of its rivals in terms of available technologies, it was hugely wealthy also. It fell.

Now im not saying Americas going to fall, that would be silly, im just pointing out that its position at the top is in jeopardy and it needs to wake up and lead now and attempt to secure its place while it still can. how many history books do i have to throw at some of you people before youl actually read them.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: locutus12

Originally posted by: K1052

They knocked out their own satellite which they knew the precise orbit of. I congragulate China to recently mastering 20+ year old US military technology.

And thats a good demonstration of the very naivety that i worry about from US politicians. anyone with a telescope and half a brain cell can locate the GPS network satellites Used by the US military just as much as the commercial sector. As for classified military satellites, again not difficult to find, indeed theres so much stuff up there its difficult to hide anything, the only thing you can secure is the purpose and intention of a satellite.

this whole ethos of "America is the greatest, no one can touch us, we will never fall from the top spot" is just plain wrong, its been seen hundreds of times throughout history. two prime examples, the British empire, the largest empire ever, technologically superior to all others, economically better than all other nations. It fell. The Roman Empire was a hundred years ahead of its rivals in terms of available technologies, it was hugely wealthy also. It fell.

Now im not saying Americas going to fall, that would be silly, im just pointing out that its position at the top is in jeopardy and it needs to wake up and lead now and attempt to secure its place while it still can. how many history books do i have to throw at some of you people before youl actually read them.

The US will eventually decline one way or another as that is historically inevitable, I just don't agree that China is going to be the cause of it. They will be a competitor to watch but not one to be terrified of.

Knocking down a sat is relatively easy. Almost any reasonably advanced country could do it if they put their mind to it. We had the ability back in the 60s to do is (as did the Soviets) using nuclear tipped ABMs. Explosive and Kinetic anti-sat weapons came on in the late 70s and early 80s. When you start knocking out the sats of OTHER countries it gets a little stickier.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: locutus12
in 20 years the USA will no longer be the worlds economic driving power, it will no longer be the worlds richest country, and it will no longer be the most affluent country and eventually its military will be surpassed in size and technology. the Chinese, a communist country, will have successfully overtaken the USA in terms of economics, and with the massive workforce to back them up, it is doubtful anyone will be able to top them for a very long time.

Long live the reds! 1991 was a bad year for us but we will be back! With the help of our new chinese friends!!! Victory to the soviet union!

 

[ShinGouki]

"You are projecting out too far and not taking into account the demographic and social problems China is going to face in the future. The one child rule and an aging workforce is going to massively bite them in the ass in the next couple decades. Also, I am very doubtful that you can accurately predict China or the US's growth forward 30 years given how many variables there are, you might as well be throwing darts at numbers on a wall. "

Not that I'm any kind of authority in this area but I happen to agree strongly with this statement. People are really getting far too excitable about this whole New Chinese Century. I'm not denying the fact that their growth has been anything but phenomenal but to assume it will continue this way at the current rate totally unhindered is frankly guesswork at best.

As for the OP... Though I agree that an awful lot of time on political forums does seem to be spent mud throwing between Republicans and Democrats there is also plenty of open debate about other issues.

Sure you can cite cases such as the Clinton \ Lewinski incident but then how do you account for the fact that in the UK we also got to see all that going on so much too... Are you forgetting papers like the Sun? What have been the leading stories of great importance to this so called Great Britain of ours in recent months...? Big Brother. A reality TV program. Wow what great superior people we are.

Let?s face it the UK is already what you are telling these Americans they are going to turn into if they don't look out. A country that once ruled the world still having a superiority complex. If they come across as arrogant it's only because right now they are in a position to be heard.

As for the not being European I have to ask when the last time it was that you checked your passport. Here's a clue on the cover what?s the very first thing it says at the top of it... "European Union". We are European whether you like it or not.

Instead of worrying about China taking over just accept it for what it is, a nation on the rise filling the vacuum left by the Soviet Union. All that manufacturing won't do much if the main country buying it all starts to fall now will it. A bit of competition will be good for America anyway; hopefully you guys will start taking the lead in a positive way again, ideologically + through technical innovation.

Though seriously guys stop with the WWII crap already it's 2007 not 1950.

 

[sierrita]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why is it that Eurpoeans are always b!tching about Americans?

Jelousy. It's an ugly emotion.

Maybe cos none of them can spell...

LOLOLOLOLOLOL SPELLING NAZIZ0R!

Love,

Europe

PS Africa says HI2U

"cos"?

The word is "because".

:laugh:

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why is it that Eurpoeans are always b!tching about Americans?

Jelousy. It's an ugly emotion.

Maybe cos none of them can spell...

LOLOLOLOLOLOL SPELLING NAZIZ0R!

Love,

Europe

PS Africa says HI2U

"cos"?

The word is "because".

:laugh:

I think that was done on purpose.

 

[locutus12]

Originally posted by: K1052


The US will eventually decline one way or another as that is historically inevitable, I just don't agree that China is going to be the cause of it. They will be a competitor to watch but not one to be terrified of.

i think youve misunderstood me, its not a question of US decline, its a question of the US resting on its laurels which allows the global economic engine to shift to china and the far east as there economies supersede that of the USA. without a major change in Chinese government policy's ranging from human rights to workers rights to energy and raw materials consumption, not to mention its appalling environmental record, this would be a very bad thing for us in the west in terms of resource security's and a very very bad thing for 1.6 Bn of the earths population who effectively can be brow beaten without fear of international diplomatic intervention due to China having the world by its economic testicles.

Originally posted by: ShinGouki
"You are projecting out too far and not taking into account the demographic and social problems China is going to face in the future. The one child rule and an aging workforce is going to massively bite them in the ass in the next couple decades. Also, I am very doubtful that you can accurately predict China or the US's growth forward 30 years given how many variables there are, you might as well be throwing darts at numbers on a wall. "

Not that I'm any kind of authority in this area but I happen to agree strongly with this statement. People are really getting far too excitable about this whole New Chinese Century. I'm not denying the fact that their growth has been anything but phenomenal but to assume it will continue this way at the current rate totally unhindered is frankly guesswork at best.

Its not guesswork, the Chinese GDP growth rate hasnt dipped below 9% in the last decade. Hardly guess work, more actual fact.

Originally posted by: ShinGouki
Sure you can cite cases such as the Clinton \ Lewinski incident but then how do you account for the fact that in the UK we also got to see all that going on so much too... Are you forgetting papers like the Sun? What have been the leading stories of great importance to this so called Great Britain of ours in recent months...? Big Brother. A reality TV program. Wow what great superior people we are.

for a start in the UK we dont spend 180 million dollars on a single person campaign that just happens to be allied to a political party, we don't run hateful adverts soiling the opponents character either. as for the top news stories, currently on BBC top stories we have Police criticised for terror raid, Iraq unveils new security plans, Man held over murder of toddler. The reason big brother hit the news was due to a racist outburst by one of the guests, As for the sun, its owned by rupert murdoch, just as the Fox network is. The sun is regarded by most as nothing other than a daily oil rag for people who know no better. hardly an insightful example that youve chosen there.

Originally posted by: ShinGouki
Let?s face it the UK is already what you are telling these Americans they are going to turn into if they don't look out. A country that once ruled the world still having a superiority complex. If they come across as arrogant it's only because right now they are in a position to be heard.

Who said arrogant ? youve completely missed the point, in my opinion the USA has not lead the way enough, it has attempted to bully its way and has dented its global reputation as a result.

Originally posted by: ShinGouki
As for the not being European I have to ask when the last time it was that you checked your passport. Here's a clue on the cover what?s the very first thing it says at the top of it... "European Union". We are European whether you like it or not.

people are defined and addressed by there country of origin, not by there continental ties. if my friend posts a letter to me from America, he doesn't post it to 100 London road, west Midlands, Europe. We are English or British. We have European connections and are happy to have them, we are a member of the European union, we are not ran by it, governed by it or defined by it.

Originally posted by: ShinGouki
Though seriously guys stop with the WWII crap already it's 2007 not 1950.

on that i can agree with.

 

[ShinGouki]

Ok thats slightly different, I guess I took the tone of your criticism a little stronger than you perhaps meant it. I think possibly our efforts should be concentrated more towards countries like India as the large democratic nation that can counterbalance Chinese influence in the region if thats what your concern is. America obviously is able to exert the most influence in that regard but it's nothing new that America is fairly introverted thats only natural and trying to appeal to their *internationalism* by suggesting that China will overtake them won't change much. It just puts people on the defensive I think.

I'm not sure that the Chinese economic surge won't cause all kinds of social and political changes in China as well though. The government can only keep it's grip on society so much. It has to loosen those chains to continue it's current growth which it won't want to do so it'll either come to the point where things will have to improve there in terms of workers / human rights, or the Government will start reigning in the populace again and thus stifle the growth anyway.

Sounds to me like your real concern is how we are going to convince China to start improving it's record on human rights, the environment etc... than any real concerns with the US . I'm not sure that China would listen to the US even if they do have the rest of the world agreeing with them. They never did in the past so why start now.

EDIT now that you've added more.

Originally posted by: locutus12"The sun is regarded by most as nothing other than a daily oil rag for people who know no better. hardly an insightful example that youve chosen there."

And yet is the most popular newspaper in the country please don't try to mislead. I could have just as easily have picked any other newspaper all of which were running the stories on big brother. You also know as well as I do that Big Brother is always in the newspapers even when there aren't any perceived *racial outbursts*. *Can't believe I'm defending The Sun I feel dirty*.

Originally posted by: locutus12"for a start in the UK we dont spend 180 million dollars on a single person campaign that just happens to be allied to a political party,"

This is one area of American politics that does disgust me, way too much money is involved in the Presedential races, I'm glad that we have caps on that type of thing at least.

Originally posted by: locutus12"people are defined and addressed by there country of origin,"

I'm not saying you have no right to call yourself British or that we are governed by Europe, just poking fun as a Brit myself don't worry . I find it amusing how defensive people in our country are about the *European* issue. I don't see whats so bad about someone calling us European personally.

Originally posted by: locutus12"Who said arrogant ? youve completely missed the point, in my opinion the USA has not lead the way enough, it has attempted to bully its way and has dented its global reputation as a result."

Certainly it's not been a shining example since Bush has been in office in terms of foreign policy, it's just that I think peoples perceptions of America have become clouded by this administration too much. It's a real shame that the US couldn't take advantage of the goodwill that was floating around just after 9/11. Having visited the US a lot since he's been in office I don't see any reason to be concerned about the general population. They are still a country that has an awful lot going for them in my opinion. Whoever gets voted in next Republican or Democrat I'm hoping that the wave of anti American sentiment that seems to have spread across Europe settles down a bit, it's really not doing anyone any good. I don't see how it benefits Europe in the slightest other than to make people feel superior about themselves.

 

[sierrita]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why is it that Eurpoeans are always b!tching about Americans?

Jelousy. It's an ugly emotion.

Maybe cos none of them can spell...

LOLOLOLOLOLOL SPELLING NAZIZ0R!

Love,

Europe

PS Africa says HI2U

"cos"?

The word is "because".

:laugh:

I think that was done on purpose.

Then how come he keeps correcting others' spelling, while making them himself?

 

[tomywishbone]

We're gonna bomb you guys tomorrow. How do you like that?

 

[ShinGouki]

Wouldn't be hard you have plenty of airbases over here .

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why is it that Eurpoeans are always b!tching about Americans?

Jelousy. It's an ugly emotion.

Maybe cos none of them can spell...

LOLOLOLOLOLOL SPELLING NAZIZ0R!

Love,

Europe

PS Africa says HI2U

"cos"?

The word is "because".

:laugh:

I think that was done on purpose.

Then how come he keeps correcting others' spelling, while making them himself?

I think he was going for irony.

 

[GTaudiophile]

The USA will destroy itself from within before China ever has the chance.

 

[sierrita]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why is it that Eurpoeans are always b!tching about Americans?

Jelousy. It's an ugly emotion.

Maybe cos none of them can spell...

LOLOLOLOLOLOL SPELLING NAZIZ0R!

Love,

Europe

PS Africa says HI2U

"cos"?

The word is "because".

:laugh:

I think that was done on purpose.

Then how come he keeps correcting others' spelling, while making them himself?

I think he was going for irony.

It figures...maybe he should stick to l33t animal acts next time; he suxors at teh irony.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Most americans(and probably all humans) are dumb, ignorant, and are followers. People also have a superiority complex... Their political party, their country, their religion... are all the best! Everyone else MUST be wrong.


The problem in the U.S. is that the progressive states(NE, California) have to deal with the redneck(out in the boonies) states where they talk like imbeciles, live in the middle of nowhere with no human contact but the few hicks around them, are super religious as a result, are intolerant, and want things to be slow and backwards, like their life.

Your friend is from Oklahoma though.. that should have clued you in.

The hypocrisy is strong with this one.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: locutus12
in 20 years the USA will no longer be the worlds economic driving power, it will no longer be the worlds richest country, and it will no longer be the most affluent country and eventually its military will be surpassed in size and technology. the Chinese, a communist country, will have successfully overtaken the USA in terms of economics, and with the massive workforce to back them up, it is doubtful anyone will be able to top them for a very long time.

Wake up America, the world is changing, the western world needs you need to change with it.

WTF! What are you smoking? We ARE the western world, europe is the tag along.

No. We are the single, most powerful, best country on the planet and will remain that way. This kind of euro-elitist crap is what ticks me off. We saved your butts so many times it isn't even funny.

LOL. Saved out butts so many times? Not this again, it always ends up the same way:

American: We saved your ass in the war!

ME: Actually just as many British fought and died in WWII as Americans, I don't think you really saved us so much as allied with us...

American: We saved your ass in the war!

ME: but Churchill asked for help right at the beginning of the thing and got turned down. You let us fight single handedly for 2 years. How is that saving our ass!?

American: We saved your ass in the war!

ME: *splutter *growl *punch screen *drink beer *post insults

American: We saved your ass in the war!

etc.


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Also, no country remains powerful for very long, USA power will wain just like all the other historical superpowers.

We ARE the western world

No WE are the western world, we invented the western world and everything in it, including YOU

 

[smopoim86]

Originally posted by: Aharami
i'm an American and I share the same views as you, OP

I agree as well. There is way too much crap that doesnt' matter