American soldiers are profesional
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Ryan
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Nothing about war is professional, killing people never has and never will be.
From reading the website, the guy was setting up an ambush and a device to blow up the next convoy that drove by. IMHO, the sodiers reaction was wrong, but that still doesn't change the fact that the guy should have been killed.
From reading the website, the guy was setting up an ambush and a device to blow up the next convoy that drove by. IMHO, the sodiers reaction was wrong, but that still doesn't change the fact that the guy should have been killed.
rule #1 Shoot People who Celebrate over Dead People
I want all the people who demonized the Iraqis for this behavior in this thread to come on in and do the same thing in regards to these Marines.
I actually saw this clip many weeks ago on CNN, but couldn't find it when the earlier thread was made.
I want all the people who demonized the Iraqis for this behavior in this thread to come on in and do the same thing in regards to these Marines.
I actually saw this clip many weeks ago on CNN, but couldn't find it when the earlier thread was made.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
I want all the people who demonized the Iraqis for this behavior in this thread to come on in and do the same thing in regards to these Marines.
dahunan
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OK.. so what do the rules say?
After he is injured **and already set booby traps** are we supposed to rush to him and take care of his medical needs? His injury did not limit his ability to set off the booby traps and kill people...
This man *the Iraqi* was a sniper in a war and got what he deserved.
After he is injured **and already set booby traps** are we supposed to rush to him and take care of his medical needs? His injury did not limit his ability to set off the booby traps and kill people...
This man *the Iraqi* was a sniper in a war and got what he deserved.
I don't think it was the actual killing...umm that is kind of expected in a war..but the cheering.
Personally, I don't find either objectionable/shocking/whatever. I would have killed the guy too.
I just find it funny that people are constantly condemming Iraqis for that sort of behavior, but it is A-OK when it is our guys.
Red Dawn
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If I was a Soldier there I would have shot the SOB. Of course I probably would shoot any Iraqi that looked at me cross eyed. Better them than me. Give me a gun and put me in a place where I am getting shot at and I am going to shoot first and ask questions later. Winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqi's would not rank high on my priotities but getting home alive would top them!
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Actually I think there might be a slight difference between "WOOT"ing after a kill and dancing over the dead bodies...but that is just my opinion. We also don't know what questions were asked of that soldier who was interviewed - it'd be interesting to know just exactly what the question was that he was answering.
CkG
So by that note, you find nothing wrong with Iraqis cheering over the deaths of Americans. Just to be consistant you see.
"Hell yeah, that was awesome, let's do it again!" Wow, what a rush it must be . . . killing a wounded guy writhing around on the ground. Let's cheer and trivialize people's lives.
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
"Hell yeah, that was awesome, let's do it again!" Wow, what a rush it must be . . . killing a wounded guy writhing around on the ground. Let's cheer and trivialize people's lives.
To be fair he may have still been a threat. If you watch the first part of that video which was on CNN in its entirety, there were two or three guys walking on the side of the road who shot at the weapons at the Americans. That is when the Marines lit them up.
dahunan
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
"Hell yeah, that was awesome, let's do it again!" Wow, what a rush it must be . . . killing a wounded guy writhing around on the ground. Let's cheer and trivialize people's lives.
KNock KNock.... He wasn't a "people" He was an enemy .. an enemy that had set booby traps around him that he held the trigger to..
He was like a weed in your garden... leave it there and it causes more damage... you need to kill it to remove the threat.
I suppose the way to see if this is right or wrong is the following.
What would you think if it were an Iraqi who shot an American, with other Iraqis celebrating?
What would you think if it were an Iraqi who shot an American, with other Iraqis celebrating?
So why not just shoot him and be done with it? Instead you get a bunch of retards standing around cheering like they just got off a rollercoaster. Also, while I guess the Geneva Convention doesn't apply to "enemy combatants" or whatever, don't you think they could learn more by taking this wounded guy prisoner? Can't you learn valuable information from an enemy like this?
dahunan
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I am not sure if you were addressing me.. but I wouldn't be upset about it.. As an American I would think that they are smart enough to realize that the Americans are really there to steal from the Great Country of Iraq.. They are not there for HUMANITARIAN REASONS.. LOL
dahunan
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How much risk would it be to take this booby trapped individual as a prisoner? While he is surrounded by people probably think like he does?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=booby-trap&r=67
I thought the rason the international force was there was a security reason. i.e. if there was no security to be gained by overthrowing Saddam and his WMD/ensuring a democracy, then why are we there again? Liberation is and will be only a secondary issue.
Andy
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It looks like propoganda to me. I didn't see the whole thing, it was cut and spliced together. I would have like to seen the entire segment. Why the editing? Even the guy talking to the reporter was cut and spliced.
Red Dawn
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Originally posted by: miguel
It looks like propoganda to me. I didn't see the whole thing, it was cut and spliced together. I would have like to seen the entire segment. Why the editing? Even the guy talking to the reporter was cut and spliced.
That's possible but I can totally understand a 18 year old kid responding that way. To them the Iraqi's, especially those trying to kill them are less than human. They see them as some kind of predatory animal.
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