Anti-American bigot?, as opposed to a pro-American bigot, like yourself, that cannot accept the harsh reality that the US is, in general, a "dumb" country. I've seen figures that show the majority of Americans can't find their own state on a map. This is inexcusable in a modern industrial nation. I would expect that same level of ignorance in some war torn african nation where schooling is unavailable and most information is spread by word of mouth and rumor rather than newspapers, televisions and computers or other sources that can be verified. There is no excuse for this level of ignorance in the US so stop searching for one for yourself.
Anti-American bigot?, as opposed to a pro-American bigot, like yourself, that cannot accept the harsh reality that the US is, in general, a "dumb" country. I've seen figures that show the majority of Americans can't find their own state on a map. This is inexcusable in a modern industrial nation. I would expect that same level of ignorance in some war torn african nation where schooling is unavailable and most information is spread by word of mouth and rumor rather than newspapers, televisions and computers or other sources that can be verified. There is no excuse for this level of ignorance in the US so stop searching for one for yourself.
freakflag
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You still don't see my point, do you? People are people, man. To say that a persons geographic location has anything to do with thier intelligence level is nuts. A human beings intelligence level is hard wired at birth. Just because they live in a technologically advanced nation does not preclude stupidity. France is modern nation. Russia is a modern nation. They shouldn't have any stupid people either then, by your logic. What about those idiots who spray painted "Take your garbage home" on the allied cemetary? The whole world is "Dumb" and if you can't accept that, I hope that bashing the US makes you feel better about yourself.
Of course it should be expected that the average American is more knowledgeable and educated than the majority of other countries.
Why this simple concept isn't understood indicates perhaps that this expectation is too challenging.
I think that there are 2 big reasons why we see people as highlighted in the initial post. One is that far too many people seem to adopt opinions rather than form them. It is probably a sad failing of our schools that many people today have no concept of how think. They lack the skills to collect and evaluate information and to use this to form a defensible opinion. There is also a lack of motivation as they are never taught that anything beyond there own little microcosm of the universe is important; the "If it dosen't affect me personally, it's not my problem." kind of attitude. So, if they hear Joe say that the bad guys are defininetly going to use gas and germs on our guys and they hear a few references to WMD during the combat phase, they, in retrospect, conclude that they must have been used. These conclusions are facilitated by the second problem, which is that people are too busy with trivial things today to expend much time and energy on anything important if it is not biting them on the ass at the moment. People spend more time now than ever before on personal entertainment. And it has to be easy and immediate as well. Flip the channel or drop in the video game, don't make a trip to the library to get a book. And parents seem to be quick to sign their kids up for activities where they can be dropped off and left under the supervision of others. I believe it is better to take your kids to art, science, and historical museums than soccor practice. Of course you then have to be prepared if they happen to start thinking and ask questions. We have become too busy to allow all but small tidbits of news to reach us and seem to be unwilling to learn new things. The jokes about the VCR flashing 12:00 are all too often based on reality. Not too hard to learn, but why bother? As ill informed as many people are, some vote and are raising kids who will be even less informed and some of them will vote too. Change is needed, but I don't yet know how it would best be implemented. The schools and the media do seem to be off course.
LunarRay
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Gee, if it weren't for them pesky little laws and all we could go about ending the oppression of all sorts of folks.. well the laws and the nukes that some of them have. Sovereign used to mean sovereign like it says in 1441 and HRJR 114 where they agree to the sovereignty of Iraq and others.
not buying that poll, just saw another one that was asking about skepticism over WMD, seemed the majority of respondents were right on top of things. This has been an ongoing poll to track changes in attitude, never once did I see this complete lack of knowledge over basic facts.
Alistar7
The poll at the start of the thread had to do with the knowledge of facts. A poll describing "skepticism over WMD" sounds like it addressed perception or opinion.
The poll at the start of the thread had to do with the knowledge of facts. A poll describing "skepticism over WMD" sounds like it addressed perception or opinion.
Originally posted by: AnImuS
I'd say more then half
you might be right, but they would all still be wrong.
''It's a striking finding,'' said Steve Kull, director of the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland, which asked the weapons questions during a May 14-18 poll of 1,256 respondents.
so many people, lol, college kids no less
so many people, lol, college kids no less
Polls show strong support for Bush and the war, although 40 percent in the May survey found U.S. officials were ''misleading'' in some of their justifications for war. A majority, 55 percent, said they were not misleading.
''People supported the war for national security reasons and that shifted to humanitarian reasons when they saw evidence of Saddam's atrocities,'' said Republican strategist Frank Luntz. ``There's an assumption these weapons will be found because this guy was doing so many bad things.''
''People supported the war for national security reasons and that shifted to humanitarian reasons when they saw evidence of Saddam's atrocities,'' said Republican strategist Frank Luntz. ``There's an assumption these weapons will be found because this guy was doing so many bad things.''
Hayabusa Rider
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One day they will find something somewhere. Yep. Bush said it, I believe it, and that settles it.
freakflag
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You can train a squirrel to water-ski. Would you let him drive the boat? My point is, there are a percentage of individuals among us that have a practical (notice, I said practical) limit to the amount of information they can process at any given time. Until we perfect Nano-tech, that is an unfortunate fact. For stupid people, education is a band-aid...not a miracle cure. Maybe you ought to hit the books a little harder before posting snide little comments like that one.
Nitemare
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And yet we ponder why far less than 50% of us vote in the presidenetial election..
Me thinks they do not have the brain cells to walk to their car and formulate a path to the voting facility must less the capacity to poke a pen through a piece of paper dislodging a perforated chad(Cough Floriduhsss)
Me thinks they do not have the brain cells to walk to their car and formulate a path to the voting facility must less the capacity to poke a pen through a piece of paper dislodging a perforated chad(Cough Floriduhsss)
I think its the other way around, they have broken away from the rest of the sheep and realize they are only voting for a puppet no matter what, they are the smart ones.......
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