American Nazi Party registers first Washington lobbyist

[Dari]

Is this the new face of the Klan? I wonder what their membership pool looks like...
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American Nazi Party registers first Washington lobbyist

The American Nazi Party has registered its first lobbyist in Washington DC.

John Bowles, 55, told US media he wanted to address political rights and ballot access and he expected congressmen would accept meetings.

Lobbying was something the party would "try out for the first time and see if it flies," Mr Bowles told ABC News. He registered as a lobbyist this week.

Lobbying is a common practice in US politics and lobby groups are required to disclose their interests in detail.

Mr Bowles' Capitol Hill registration also listed his lobbying interests as agriculture, clean air and water, civil rights, the constitution, healthcare, immigration, manufacturing, and retirement.

Mr Bowles said he would not be paid for his work on Capitol Hill and would take a "careful and objective" approach.

"I'm not going to go in and shove a swastika in their face," he said.

He conceded that there might be some resistance to holding meetings with him. "There might be some congressmen who crumple up the paper and some who say: 'This is interesting,'" he told ABC.

Mr Bowles also said that his move to officially register as a lobbyist was inspired by his reading of the constitution, congressional newspaper The Hill reported.

Mr Bowles previously stood as a presidential candidate for the National Socialist Movement in 2008.

The American Nazi Party traces its ideology to George Lincoln Rockwell, who founded a post-war National Socialist white supremacist movement in the US.

The group reportedly holds meetings in South Carolina and lists a postal address via a post office box in Michigan.

The reminder of 20th Century ideology comes at the end of a week in which Florida Congressman Allen West said publicly that as many as 81 members of Congress are active members of the Communist Party.

 

[cybrsage]

It is the new face of the American Nazi Party, the Klan is a completely different group.

 

[Dari]

It is the new face of the American Nazi Party, the Klan is a completely different group.

Tell me more? How are they different? AFAIK, the Klans do not have a political party. But the American Nazis do. I would presume that Klansmen and American Nazis are one and the same...

 

[cybrsage]

They share ideals, etc. Like HAMAS and HezzbAllah share ideals, but are seperate groups. The American Nazi Party is a socialist party - they support things like the OWS movement and any movement aimed at creating socialism. The Klan is against socialism, seeing individuals and the State (as opposed to the Fed Gov) as being supreme, with individuals being more important than the state. Both are white supremists, though.

 

[Lemon law]

They share ideals, etc. Like HAMAS and HezzbAllah share ideals, but are seperate groups. The American Nazi Party is a socialist party - they support things like the OWS movement and any movement aimed at creating socialism. The Klan is against socialism, seeing individuals and the State (as opposed to the Fed Gov) as being supreme, with individuals being more important than the state. Both are white supremists, though.

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It may be worth while to correct a cybrsage error, despite the fact that Nazi and fascist parties may use the word socialism, such parties are still fiercely anti-communistic and will also oppose any trade unionism.

After that, that USA has always believed in free speech and allowing any political to register. The Communists have always been allowed to offer American candidates, so why should the Nazi party be prohibited. As for me, hell can freeze over and I still won't support any Nazi party with my money or votes.

As I also don't believe in censorship, as hate groups like Nazi best thrive underground, so I believe in letting the clear light of day to illuminate any political party. So all warts and flaws can be examined. Of course Nazi/fascist parties believe differently, as soon as they gain political power, their first act is to ban all other political parties.

So know John Bowles face and name, in case you are unlucky enough to encounter him on the street. So you can use the opportunity to tell him how repulsive you think he is.

 

[Anarchist420]

It may be worth while to correct a cybrsage error

He made no error. All government is socialism; there are different types of socialism. If Dr. Paul believe that the government should exist, then he is a socialist (although very minimally socialist). If Dr. Paul does not believe that government should exist then he is not a socialist. However, I don't think he's a socialist.

 

[cybrsage]

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It may be worth while to correct a cybrsage error, despite the fact that Nazi and fascist parties may use the word socialism, such parties are still fiercely anti-communistic and will also oppose any trade unionism.

It may be worthwhile to correct a Lemon law error, communism is not socialism and trade unions are not socialism.

 

[SandEagle]

why do people still cling on to anything 'Nazi'? its dead. shit that happened over 60 years ago. they were on the losing side of history. who wants to be associate with losers? wonder what the real agenda is here behind this?

 

[Moonbeam]

why do people still cling on to anything 'Nazi'? its dead. shit that happened over 60 years ago. they were on the losing side of history. who wants to be associate with losers? wonder what the real agenda is here behind this?

Attention! Folk who hate themselves need attention to flatter their egos and since they have never known positive loving attention they seek the attention of hate. It at least makes them feel alive even though they are actually emotionally dead.

 

[cave_dweller]

Nazi's never been dead. They have been entertaining us in movies for over 30 years now. I want to ask everyone a question. What is the first picture that jumps into your head thinking of the American Nazi?

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Nazi's never been dead. They have been entertaining us in movies for over 30 years now. I want to ask everyone a question. What is the first picture that jumps into your head thinking of the American Nazi?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9b/Republicanlogo.svg/220px-Republicanlogo.svg.png

 

[cave_dweller]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9b/Republicanlogo.svg/220px-Republicanlogo.svg.png

lmao:biggrin:

 

[PottedMeat]

He conceded that there might be some resistance to holding meetings with him. "There might be some congressmen who crumple up the paper and some who say: 'This is interesting,'" he told ABC.

heh the ones that get kicked out of their party and don't want to get re-elected should anyone find out.

Nazi's never been dead. They have been entertaining us in movies for over 30 years now. I want to ask everyone a question. What is the first picture that jumps into your head thinking of the American Nazi?

lol

who are the only safe people to kill in mass quantities in games and movies - zombies and nazis.

 

[boomerang]

Is this the new face of the Klan? I wonder what their membership pool looks like...
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Based on the tail end of a segment I heard on NPR within the last week or so, Mr. Bowles will have no problems getting an audience if his pockets are deep enough. Lobbyists buy themselves time with elected officials. If he has the money, he'll get his time. In fact, I doubt he'd have been sent there if he didn't have the backing required. It would make little sense.

If it makes you angry to read the paragraph above, be sure to direct your anger in the appropriate direction. Hint: It's not at me and it's not at the Nazi party.

 

[Ausm]

It is the new face of the American Nazi Party, the Klan is a completely different group.

But aren't they both white supremacist groups which are the extension of guess what party?

 

[cave_dweller]

heh the ones that get kicked out of their party and don't want to get re-elected should anyone find out.



lol

who are the only safe people to kill in mass quantities in games and movies - zombies and nazis.

fuck yeaaaaaaaaah!!

Its good all these extreme to the right parties is starting. That means one wise and beautiful woman is getting less votes as its split up between them :biggrin:

 

[Lemon law]

Maybe to a certain extent, no one has seemingly noted that there are up sides and down sides to registering as a Lobbying group in America. As another question somewhat arises,
is the "American Nazi party" a purely an American group, or will they affiliate with other Nazi parties in the world? If the latter is true or becomes provable, then John Bowles may have to register as a agent of foreign powers.

Then the other question becomes, to what extent will lobbying money spent on congressmen, Senators, political parties, or Presidential candidates be a Matter of public record? So I can act in a fitting manner and refuse to vote for any political candidate who excepts a dime of Nazi money.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

But aren't they both white supremacist groups which are the extension of guess what party?

Democrat party? Maybe the Klan was very big amongst southern democrats and the American NAZI movement has strong collectivist views that are socialist in nature and design. However both groups are anathema to those who value personal indivdual freedoms more so then they value the whims and needs of the majority/mob who scream, yell and threaten the loudest to get their way and use the federal government to force their agendas.

 

[woolfe9999]

The Nazis purged the socialists from their party shortly after getting into power. "Socialism" was in name only.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

The Nazis purged the socialists from their party shortly after getting into power. "Socialism" was in name only.

Nazism is just another flavor of the collectivist ideologies (they are an off-shoot of the Fascism branch of this rotten tree) that didn't like being mixed with other flavors of socialism. Just as the communist and all other socialist groups in Europe used to battle each other on the streets of Germany before NAZI party became the dominate political force in Germany. However in the end they are collectivist who use the authority of government to supersede the rights of individuals just like all other collectivist ideologies (all brands of socialism, communism along with fascism) eventually do in order to achieve their own agendas.

 

[Fern]

It strikes me as odd that a political party has a lobbyists to meet with members of other political parties. I can see companies, whether profit or nonprofit, trade groups and such having lobbyists, but a political party? It doesn't make much sense to me. Both the Dems and Repubs have their own party platforms, why would they care to meet with someone from another party pushing his platform?

I think he's going to be a lonely lobbyists. Who wants to be labeled as meeting with the Nazi?

Fern

 

[cave_dweller]

Maybe to a certain extent, no one has seemingly noted that there are up sides and down sides to registering as a Lobbying group in America. As another question somewhat arises,
is the "American Nazi party" a purely an American group, or will they affiliate with other Nazi parties in the world? If the latter is true or becomes provable, then John Bowles may have to register as a agent of foreign powers.

Then the other question becomes, to what extent will lobbying money spent on congressmen, Senators, political parties, or Presidential candidates be a Matter of public record? So I can act in a fitting manner and refuse to vote for any political candidate who excepts a dime of Nazi money.

What other Nazi's? They all moved to the US. Those skinheads in germany are ravers at the Love Parade not Nazi's

 

[boomerang]

The Left-Fascist Axis. Again.

 

[trenchfoot]

Hehehee, nobody wants to "adopt" the Nazi party openly like how the Repubs bought out the Tea Party, yet it might be pretty interesting to know what party the Nazi's themselves want to identify with. With only two choices to pick from...geeee...hmmmm...I wonder what party that would be. lol

 

[woolfe9999]

Nazism is just another flavor of the collectivist ideologies (they are an off-shoot of the Fascism branch of this rotten tree) that didn't like being mixed with other flavors of socialism. Just as the communist and all other socialist groups in Europe used to battle each other on the streets of Germany before NAZI party became the dominate political force in Germany. However in the end they are collectivist who use the authority of government to supersede the rights of individuals just like all other collectivist ideologies (all brands of socialism, communism along with fascism) eventually do in order to achieve their own agendas.

You're just trying to lump every political idea that you don't like (read: anything other than American libertarianism) into the same category. Two things that are different are not the same merely because you say they are. Yeah, neither is the anarcho-capitalism that American conservatives say they desire. There, however, the similarities between the two end. The notion that Nazism was "socialism" is a canard. The Nazis not only despised socialists, they despised liberals more than anything. One of the first things they did while in power was disband all the trade unions. A modern conservatives wet dream.