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America the frightened wimps

d3n

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"When did America become a nation of frightened wimps?" hit a nerve with me. I concur with the assessment made. I have served in the military overseas. I would call myself a hawk. I've said this here before, but I believe it bears constant repeating. To me, the best thing about this country is that it has the best system in place to keep government the heck out of my life. The system has been hijacked by the party liners.

This republican administration has jumped the shark, its overly broad interpretation an convinetly set precedents have shredded personal rights. I honestly don't see how party leaders can utter the word republican without being overcome by crushing shame. It has all filtered down and has resulted in the culture depicted in the first half of the article.

The second half is for the liberals who would have all of the less fortunate in society think that the government is just the ticket to help with there lot in life and to save them from themselves. Grow a pair and take some personal responsibility. Buy a gun for the next Katrina or the next beat down you receive in a public restaurant. The government can't be there to protect you every minute of every day. they know it, and once upon a time realized they probably shouldn't try (ref the 2nd amendment)

The government is there to project and protect our national interest, our common resources (ie environment),and our national sovereignty (ie stop illegal immigration) It should work to distill the mechanics/involvement of government down to a community level of interaction, being ever so careful to only serve in the capacity of the rights granted to it by the constitution. If you read that carefully you will realize that is not the same as allowing the government to grant rights to citizens. That was never in the charter nor was the categorization of big business as an individual with all the rights carried with that status.

So, I ask, is this country great for you, or is it great for your party bandwagon?
 
I don't think our federal government should be in the business of bailing people who build and live in natural disaster prone areas either. But that's just me.
 
The pair you grew are full of hot air and have caused you to float far far away. Careful, there Robocop they don't pop a thousand feet in the air.
 
Originally posted by: d3n
Buy a gun for the next Katrina or the next beat down you receive in a public restaurant.
That makes sense since you can stop a hurricane with enough guns 😕

 
Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Originally posted by: d3n
Buy a gun for the next Katrina or the next beat down you receive in a public restaurant.
That makes sense since you can stop a hurricane with enough guns 😕

the gun is to help with looting
 
Ugh. There is nothing more annoying in modern day American politics than this idea that being a "hawk" (read, "asshole") makes you a manly and self-sufficient when all it usually means is that you want the government to hold your hand just as much as anyone else, you're just all uppity about it. Don't get me wrong, I DO think there is an overabundance of concern for "safety" and not enough concern for freedom, but the people PREACHING that seem to usually be a bunch of loons and goobers (and hypocrites). My apologies to those of you who DON'T fall into that category, but you are in the distinct minority among the people bitching about American "pussification".
 
Originally posted by: Oceandevi
Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Originally posted by: d3n
Buy a gun for the next Katrina or the next beat down you receive in a public restaurant.
That makes sense since you can stop a hurricane with enough guns 😕

the gun is to help with looting

Wouldn't a big cloth sack work better?
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Ugh. There is nothing more annoying in modern day American politics than this idea that being a "hawk" (read, "asshole") makes you a manly and self-sufficient when all it usually means is that you want the government to hold your hand just as much as anyone else, you're just all uppity about it. Don't get me wrong, I DO think there is an overabundance of concern for "safety" and not enough concern for freedom, but the people PREACHING that seem to usually be a bunch of loons and goobers (and hypocrites). My apologies to those of you who DON'T fall into that category, but you are in the distinct minority among the people bitching about American "pussification".

I termed hawk in the post just as a reference to show which way I normally lean. I think the kernel of the post applies regardless.

Everyone is a hypocrite to some degree. Life brings decisions more influenced by some factors than others at any given moment. So, my opinions are shaped and my convictions are not absolutely rigid. I like to think that I default to being open minded in my decisions rather than looking to do whats best for me and mine on most days.

Thats a lie though. The last decision tree check for human nature is to do whats best for me and mine. That includes lawmakers, influential parties with financial interests and those that would just like to become influential by pandering to the fearful. Lately this is done by promising government as a tool to leverage their 'pussified' views onto others with a consistent fall out of having yet another decision in my life made for me without much voice in it at all.

 
Originally posted by: d3n
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Ugh. There is nothing more annoying in modern day American politics than this idea that being a "hawk" (read, "asshole") makes you a manly and self-sufficient when all it usually means is that you want the government to hold your hand just as much as anyone else, you're just all uppity about it. Don't get me wrong, I DO think there is an overabundance of concern for "safety" and not enough concern for freedom, but the people PREACHING that seem to usually be a bunch of loons and goobers (and hypocrites). My apologies to those of you who DON'T fall into that category, but you are in the distinct minority among the people bitching about American "pussification".

I termed hawk in the post just as a reference to show which way I normally lean. I think the kernel of the post applies regardless.

Everyone is a hypocrite to some degree. Life brings decisions more influenced by some factors than others at any given moment. So, my opinions are shaped and my convictions are not absolutely rigid. I like to think that I default to being open minded in my decisions rather than looking to do whats best for me and mine on most days.

Thats a lie though. The last decision tree check for human nature is to do whats best for me and mine. That includes lawmakers, influential parties with financial interests and those that would just like to become influential by pandering to the fearful. Lately this is done by promising government as a tool to leverage their 'pussified' views onto others with a consistent fall out of having yet another decision in my life made for me without much voice in it at all.

I'm probably not alone in thinking that the real "frightened wimps" are the people who are, first and last, looking about for them and theirs and to hell with everyone else. I don't think government is the answer to all our problems or anything, but the whole "rugged individualist" ideas seem to ignore that the vast majority of human progress wasn't made by some survivalist living in his cabin in Montana. As much as people might like to think they're better off following the law of the jungle, the fact is that what separates human beings from animals is that we're able to look past our evolutionary limitations.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: d3n
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Ugh. There is nothing more annoying in modern day American politics than this idea that being a "hawk" (read, "asshole") makes you a manly and self-sufficient when all it usually means is that you want the government to hold your hand just as much as anyone else, you're just all uppity about it. Don't get me wrong, I DO think there is an overabundance of concern for "safety" and not enough concern for freedom, but the people PREACHING that seem to usually be a bunch of loons and goobers (and hypocrites). My apologies to those of you who DON'T fall into that category, but you are in the distinct minority among the people bitching about American "pussification".

I termed hawk in the post just as a reference to show which way I normally lean. I think the kernel of the post applies regardless.

Everyone is a hypocrite to some degree. Life brings decisions more influenced by some factors than others at any given moment. So, my opinions are shaped and my convictions are not absolutely rigid. I like to think that I default to being open minded in my decisions rather than looking to do whats best for me and mine on most days.

Thats a lie though. The last decision tree check for human nature is to do whats best for me and mine. That includes lawmakers, influential parties with financial interests and those that would just like to become influential by pandering to the fearful. Lately this is done by promising government as a tool to leverage their 'pussified' views onto others with a consistent fall out of having yet another decision in my life made for me without much voice in it at all.

I'm probably not alone in thinking that the real "frightened wimps" are the people who are, first and last, looking about for them and theirs and to hell with everyone else. I don't think government is the answer to all our problems or anything, but the whole "rugged individualist" ideas seem to ignore that the vast majority of human progress wasn't made by some survivalist living in his cabin in Montana. As much as people might like to think they're better off following the law of the jungle, the fact is that what separates human beings from animals is that we're able to look past our evolutionary limitations.


I see agreement there. This country is never going to go back to a frontier day type of culture. Still, I think that we have a thin veil of civilization keeping most people in check. Letting people decide in their own communities will help this. Policy pushed down from national government foisting the ideas of other self segregated communities onto others creates feelings of resentment. I know I am against a national unified culture. I think that those working for national pussifcation would love to see this. Their local views and opinions mandated across the entire country in one big socialist utopia. Thats talking in absolutes but my point is in there.
 
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