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America Against the World

ValkyrieofHouston

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Was browsing the Barnes and Noble Bookstore yesterday and came across this book.

Excerpts from the book:

Americans leading nonpartisan pollstar shows just how different Americans are from everyone else-- and how their attitudes feed the rise in anit-americanism.

The precipitous rise in anti-americanism is startling. Americans image has dramatically deteriorated over the past five years, and even the American people themselves are less well regarded than in the past. From the war on terrorism to antiglobalization protests to entrenched resistance to U.S. initiatives at the United Nations, Americans feel assailed from all quarters.

To understand why the world has turned against the United States, the Pew Research Center, under the leadership of Andrew Kohut has undertaken an uprecedented series of global opinion surveys-- more than 91,000 respondents in fifty nations--to discover how the world views America and its people. In America Against the World, Kohut and Bruce Stokes unveil the sobering and surprising results of these extraordinary surveys, looking at the role played by U.S. attitudes and values in the dynamic rise of anti-Americanism. They reveal that:

1) More than 70 percent of non-Americans say that the world would be imporved if America faced a rival military power. Americans overwhelmingly disagree.

2) Two thirds of Americans think that preemptive war can be justified, while few Europeans agree.

3) Most people around the world believe that America ignores their interests in making foreign policy, yet 67 percent of Americans feel that the United States pays attention to the interests of other countries-- a disconnect of a major order.

4) Americans take enormous pride in their way of doing business and practicing democracy, but citizens of other nations rank Australia, Britian, ans Canada higher than the United States as places to go for economic growth and freedom.

5) Ninety four percent of Americans believe in God compared to 60 percent of the British, 56 percent of the French, and 50 percent of Germans. Spiritually, America has more in common with Muslim countries like Egypt and Pakistan than with its European allies.

In what is perhaps the most provocative finding, Kohuts and Stokes discern that what has pushed the world away is not just the war in Iraq but also the American publics exceptional go it alone attitudes. And it doesn't help that Americans pervasive religiosity and deep patriotism are often exaggerated and misunderstood by Americas critics.

Former Secretary of State Madeline K. Albright argues in her foreword that we cannot stop the spread of anti americanism without truly understanding who we are. America Against the World provides the insight to that step.

This is truly a thought provoking book.
 
bushler plays divide and conquer at home and abroad. Mind control through information manipulation works well here at home but apparently not abroad.

Your link to excerpts...

America Against the World

America's leading nonpartisan pollster shows how we are different--and how our exceptionalism feeds the rise in anti-Americanism

The precipitous rise in anti-Americanism is startling. To understand why the world has turned against the United States, the Pew Research Center, under the leadership of Andrew Kohut, has undertaken an unprecedented survey of world opinion--more than 91,000 respondents in fifty nations. In America Against the World, Kohut and Bruce Stokes unveil the sobering and surprising findings.

America's image is at a low ebb: where once it was considered the champion of democracy, America is now seen as a self-absorbed, militant hyperpower. More than 70 percent of non-Americans say that the world would be improved if America faced a rival military power, and about half the citizens of Lebanon, Jordan, and Morocco think that suicide attacks on Americans in Iraq are justified.

Where does this anti-Americanism come from? Kohut and Stokes find that what pushed the world away is American exceptionalism--our individualism and our go-it-alone attitude. And it doesn't help that Americans' pervasive religiosity and deep patriotism are often exaggerated by America's critics.

Former Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright argues in her foreword that we cannot stop the spread of anti-Americanism without truly understanding who we are. America Against the World provides the insight to take that step.

Quotes

"If you've been wondering why the rest of the world often misunderstands, dislikes, and even fears the United States, this book offers convincing answers. Andrew Kohut, Bruce Stokes, and their colleagues have done impressive original research and produced truly arresting insights."
- Doyle McManus, Washington Bureau Chief, Los Angeles Times

"At a time when America needs international support more than ever, Andrew Kohut and Bruce Stokes explain why the United States is distinct and sometimes disliked. Rather than rely on conjecture, they use international surveys to answer these critical questions. Anyone worried about America's place in the world will find new evidence and unconventional answers in this well-written book."
- Joseph S. Nye, Jr., author of Soft Power: The Means to Success in World Politics

"By holding up two mirrors--how we Americans look to ourselves and how we look to others--Andrew Kohut and Bruce Stokes hit us with a reality full of surprises, comforting and unsettling insights, and a full meal for policymakers and the rest of us to digest or pay the consequences. Very carefully and fairly analyzed, this is a truly important book."
- Leslie H. Gelb, president emeritus, Council on Foreign Relations

Author Biography
Andrew Kohut is the director of the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, the leading nonpartisan polling organization in America. He is a frequent commentator for PBS and NPR and a regular essayist for The New York Times. He lives in Washington, D.C. Bruce Stokes is the international economics columnist for National Journal and a consultant to the Pew Global Attitudes Project. A former senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, he lives in Washington, D.C.
 
There are none, I had to hand type this from the book... LOL

Maybe you can google the book and find your own links. I bought the book and it is very very interesting.

It makes me think that we as a country have become so puritanical... so arrogant and capitalistic to an extreme, as in greed.... that the world no longer see's us as a super power hero but a big bully who is trying to push it's views onto them. In other words we are no better than the very terrorists we fight. As unpopular as that statement may seem, you would need to read the book to understand where this author is coming from, and understand why so many countries now look upon American with such disdain. It is alarming to me, and in the book there are some points I do agree with. The question now is are Americans willing to look in the mirror at themselves and willing to acknowledge what is going on in this country, and try to turn things around?
 
I am always startled by the stats on Americans believing in God. I wonder what that really means, though. I just don't believe 94% of the population literally believes there is a silent, invisible, all-powerful entity in the sky watching us and judging our behavior. I just think religion permeates our culture to the extent that we feel a pressure to "believe," for fear of being a) ostracized and b) cast into Hell if we're wrong in not believing.
 
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
It makes me think that we as a country have become so puritanical... so arrogant and capitalistic to an extreme, as in greed.... that the world no longer see's us as a super power hero but a big bully who is trying to push it's views onto them.

In other words we are no better than the very terrorists we fight.

As unpopular as that statement may seem, you would need to read the book to understand where this author is coming from, and understand why so many countries now look upon American with such disdain.

It is alarming to me, and in the book there are some points I do agree with.

The question now is are Americans willing to look in the mirror at themselves and willing to acknowledge what is going on in this country, and try to turn things around?
The obvious answer is NO.

Just look at the continued rabid support for the Republican Regime especially the "I'll jump off a bridge for Bush" mentality by the resident Republicans in here.
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
I am always startled by the stats on Americans believing in God. I wonder what that really means, though. I just don't believe 94% of the population literally believes there is a silent, invisible, all-powerful entity in the sky watching us and judging our behavior. I just think religion permeates our culture to the extent that we feel a pressure to "believe," for fear of being a) ostracized and b) cast into Hell if we're wrong in not believing.


The thing that is even scarier is that we have created so many laws and creating still more, based on morals that are founded on religious beliefs. That is a clear violation of the separation of church and state, threatening the freedom of and from religion. As per George Washington in 1796 at the Treaty of Tripoli "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion".
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
I am always startled by the stats on Americans believing in God. I wonder what that really means, though. I just don't believe 94% of the population literally believes there is a silent, invisible, all-powerful entity in the sky watching us and judging our behavior. I just think religion permeates our culture to the extent that we feel a pressure to "believe," for fear of being a) ostracized and b) cast into Hell if we're wrong in not believing.
Additionally, once you're able to accept (on faith) that there's some bearded white guy up in the clouds watching over you, then anything is possible at that point. Including believing that God had told Bush to strike Afghanistan and then Iraq or that the president and his administration actually knew what the hell they're doing and re-electing them.

That was probably the tipping point for world attitude. It was one thing the first term - the American people could have argued they didn't know what they were getting themselves into. After the second term, Americans simply cannot use that excuse.
 
It doesn't matter what questions you ask, people from other nations, especially Europe, are going to pick the answer that least favors America. Most of those excerpt questions are basically "How do you feel about America" anyway, so I don't see how it's startling or new at all. And do you really think American's aren't going to answer questions in favor of their own country? If the roles were reversed, and we were polled about some other European nation, the results would be nearly identical.
 
Originally posted by: jrenz
It doesn't matter what questions you ask, people from other nations, especially Europe, are going to pick the answer that least favors America. Most of those excerpt questions are basically "How do you feel about America" anyway, so I don't see how it's startling or new at all. And do you really think American's aren't going to answer questions in favor of their own country? If the roles were reversed, and we were polled about some other European nation, the results would be nearly identical.

It's always fun to see denial put forth with such absolute certainty even though the possibility that anybody could have any such certainty in real fact is nil.

Naturally, because we hate ourselves, the only skill worth having is the capacity to deflect anything that reflects who we are, right?
 
As someone who spends a lot of the year in other countries, I can certainly say that the US is losing respect and influence around the world. Part of it is because of the growing rise of Asia and the EU, but part of it is also poor decisions by BOTH Clinton and Bush. The US is starting to lose its edge, people dont look to the uS anymore for a template on freedom and liberty. As that article mentioned, people often look to countries such as Canada and Australia on how to do things correctly.

 
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
As someone who spends a lot of the year in other countries, I can certainly say that the US is losing respect and influence around the world. Part of it is because of the growing rise of Asia and the EU, but part of it is also poor decisions by BOTH Clinton and Bush. The US is starting to lose its edge, people dont look to the uS anymore for a template on freedom and liberty. As that article mentioned, people often look to countries such as Canada and Australia on how to do things correctly.
Topic Title: America Against the World

Sorry but I didn't see Clinton pissing off the World and pushing the U.S. as an Imperialistic Nation.

The Title should be Republicans Against The World
 
I call BS on the belief in god statistics. I've heard around 85% of the US believes in some sort of god. The UK, France, and Germany may not be very religious but I can guarantee you they have higher percentages (than what that claims anyhow) that believe in a god. France for instance, according to the CIA World Factbbook, consists of around 85% Roman Catholics and roughly 7% Muslims. Generally those two groups believe in god.

The part on ignoring others interests...well obviously we are going to look out for ourselves. I'm sure those other countries do the same.
 
The USA is a hijacked Nation. So therefore the perceptions that the billions of non-Americans around the World have of the USA, will be much in the hands of our hijackers. Look at what they are doing...

...record dope production in Afghanistan (primary Intel Agency black-op funding source)

...endless torture and massacre scandals in Iraq/Afghanistan as evidence of the new neo-fascism employed and it's double standards (good when we do it - bad when they do)

...unilateral pre-emptive war ideology that even includes the use of mini-nukes (outrageous!, indescriminate fallout downwind!)

...scattering depleted uranium radiation across the middle east and yogoslavia (a huge disaster!)

...exercizing an insane corporate fundamentalist mindset that strips away ALL restraint - resulting in essentially colonial conquests - not freeing nations from dictators and establishing fair elections and handing back soverignity. (IE, ...puppet governments)

...lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, (all lies all the time)

That's just six. Shall we continue?

And is this perception control being done by our hijackers? Creating a foul stench on purpose to spoil as much good will towards the United States as possible? Sure looks like it. What do you think?
 
Interesting, but I question the choice of words. I'm not sure I'd characterize the problem as "The world turning against America" without also adding "America turning against the word". While anti-Americanism is growing abroad, anti-everyone else feelings seem to be more and more popular here at home. All stereotypes aside, I'd be willing to bet that Americans dislike the French more than the French dislike Americans. Defending ANY foreign country is something of a taboo when talking to a lot of people now, saying you like Europe is only a little bit better (in their minds) than saying you are in favor of Islamic terrorists. We're almost proud of our dislike of foreign countries, especially Europe. Whatever feelings they have against us, we're sending right back their way.
 
"5) Ninety four percent of Americans believe in God compared to 60 percent of the British, 56 percent of the French, and 50 percent of Germans. Spiritually, America has more in common with Muslim countries like Egypt and Pakistan than with its European allies."

What a open-minded, tolerant person he is. :disgust: That religious people are automatically assumed supporters of tyranny and violence.

Just because Americans like god, it does not mean we think like Egyptians or anyone else he is thinking of. Next, he'll start to compare us to the Taliban, like many here do. Give me something specific:

In what way our religion makes us have things in common with Egypt and Pakistan?

Typical BS. Thinking only about what is at the surface, but not below the surface. Thinking only of a few people but not thinking about all people.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
"5) Ninety four percent of Americans believe in God compared to 60 percent of the British, 56 percent of the French, and 50 percent of Germans. Spiritually, America has more in common with Muslim countries like Egypt and Pakistan than with its European allies."

What a moron.

Just because Americans like god, it does not mean we think like Egyptians or anyone else he is thinking of. Next, he'll start to compare us to the Taliban, like many here do. Give me something specific:

In what way our religion makes us have things in common with Egypt and Pakistan?

Typical BS. Thinking only about what is at the surface, but not below the surface. Thinking only of a few people but not thinking about all people.

I agree to some extent, but I think his point was that a lot of our official government actions and issues are directly related to religion in a way not found in many (most?) first world countries...in that sense we DO have more in common with more religious oriented countries. That doesn't mean we're "like the Taliban", it just means that when it comes to religious issues in government, we have a lot more of them than many other countries we're otherwise comparable with.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
As someone who spends a lot of the year in other countries, I can certainly say that the US is losing respect and influence around the world. Part of it is because of the growing rise of Asia and the EU, but part of it is also poor decisions by BOTH Clinton and Bush. The US is starting to lose its edge, people dont look to the uS anymore for a template on freedom and liberty. As that article mentioned, people often look to countries such as Canada and Australia on how to do things correctly.
Topic Title: America Against the World

Sorry but I didn't see Clinton pissing off the World and pushing the U.S. as an Imperialistic Nation.

The Title should be Republicans Against The World

I liked Clinton and much of the World certainly liked him a lot, but some of his Foreign Actions did irk some around the world. Although, to be fair, most of the irksome actions during his Presidency were the actions of Congress(Kyoto, Cuba, Trade Issues for eg) and not his alone.
 
In my opinion the only thing Clinto did wrong was the whole Lewinski thing...

It really made a laughing stock out of the USA
All those "late night" shows that made fun of him, well they're watched outside of the USA too. It made you look weak.

After 9-11 there was a lot of sympathy and support for the USA, too bad Bush didn't stop at Afghanistan, Iraq washed it down the drain.

 
Originally posted by: walkur
In my opinion the only thing Clinto did wrong was the whole Lewinski thing...

It really made a laughing stock out of the USA
All those "late night" shows that made fun of him, well they're watched outside of the USA too. It made you look weak.

After 9-11 there was a lot of sympathy and support for the USA, too bad Bush didn't stop at Afghanistan, Iraq washed it down the drain.

The Lewinsky thing didn't make us a laughingstock. It was our gross overreaction to it that had everyone laughing.
 
I haven't read the book but here's my opinion about some of the key findings:

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
1) More than 70 percent of non-Americans say that the world would be imporved if America faced a rival military power. Americans overwhelmingly disagree.

People forget how the Cold War was like. And they aren't content with the outcome of American military operations or with the behavior of American soldiers (and it may just be a reckless driver in a Hummer).

Last week I've read however that US troops are the most accepted in Afghanistan because they're percieved as more effective than their European counterparts.

2) Two thirds of Americans think that preemptive war can be justified, while few Europeans agree.

I'm a typical European then. And not because it's a slippery slope thing to me, but because it's a definition problem to separate preemptive and preventive war.

3) Most people around the world believe that America ignores their interests in making foreign policy, yet 67 percent of Americans feel that the United States pays attention to the interests of other countries-- a disconnect of a major order.

An interesting follow-up question would've been which countries the Americans think profit most from American foreign policy. I bet that many interviewees wouldn't have had a quick response to this. -It's however not typically American that Joe Average isn't interested in his nation's foreign politcy.

4) Americans take enormous pride in their way of doing business and practicing democracy, but citizens of other nations rank Australia, Britian, ans Canada higher than the United States as places to go for economic growth and freedom.

Now look what Sarbanes-Oxley has done! 😛 Just kidding. Again the average Joe doesn't have worker experience in multiple countries. But an image issue, it is.

5) Ninety four percent of Americans believe in God compared to 60 percent of the British, 56 percent of the French, and 50 percent of Germans. Spiritually, America has more in common with Muslim countries like Egypt and Pakistan than with its European allies.

I believe that the percentage of "Christmas, Wedding & Funeral-Christians" is roughly the same in North America and Europe. But the percentage of active evangelic-protestantic Christians who favor a literal interpretation of the bible is higher in the US. That's why the Y2K-Bug and creationism were bigger issues than in Europe. But this percentage is again lower than what many countries have in practising Muslims.

But I don't think that religion divides Europe and America. Genuine political and military issues are the main factors; European scepticism about contribution to peacekeeping operations. Americans that think that their good image vs. a bit torture here and there is a good deal (like a user in this topic). The idea of preemptive attacks. Etcetera.

The rest of the world for sure hasn't a totally neutral perspective on the US. But it's undeniable that after a wave of solidarity in 2001 the international opinion on the US began to decrease in 2002/03.
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
I am always startled by the stats on Americans believing in God. I wonder what that really means, though. I just don't believe 94% of the population literally believes there is a silent, invisible, all-powerful entity in the sky watching us and judging our behavior. I just think religion permeates our culture to the extent that we feel a pressure to "believe," for fear of being a) ostracized and b) cast into Hell if we're wrong in not believing.
They should do a survey to find out what percentage of Americans know what the word "literally" literally means.
 
Originally posted by: phantom309
Originally posted by: walkur
In my opinion the only thing Clinto did wrong was the whole Lewinski thing...

It really made a laughing stock out of the USA
All those "late night" shows that made fun of him, well they're watched outside of the USA too. It made you look weak.

After 9-11 there was a lot of sympathy and support for the USA, too bad Bush didn't stop at Afghanistan, Iraq washed it down the drain.

The Lewinsky thing didn't make us a laughingstock. It was our gross overreaction to it that had everyone laughing.

I'm sure the rest of the world wants the U.S. to get back to extra nookie under the Oval Office Desk rather than what the U.S. has now.
 
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