AMDs overclocking secret.

[Nemesis 1]

I don't know if this is been posted . This is just 1 link there is alot more info .

I like to play fair . If I find something new to me I post . Doesn't matter how I feel about the company I am all for tech.

http://www.dvhardware.net/article26727.html

http://www.tgdaily.com/html_tm...nt-view-37816-135.html

 

[GrJohnso]

Odd little "secret". Last I checked, it was no secret that all current intel CPU's overclock 20% or more without much issue, most quite a bit more just by changing the FSB.

I'm all in favor of finding ways to get more out of your hardware, and it's nice that these chips are capable of more, but... It's going to take a bit more before AMD catches up with intel on that front...

Still, good info to have if you are in the market for AMD. Thanks for posting...

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

AMD still needs to lower their power consumption and until AMD reaches 4Ghz on air, Intel has them beat. Common AMD!

 

[Foxery]

What strange and vague little articles... is this code for, "oops, our previous chipsets/motherboards had a glitch holding us back?"

 

[dv8silencer]

Crappy article

 

[aigomorla]

average overclock for a Phenom 3.0 - 3.1ghz.

Average overclock for a Q6600 3.2 - 3.8ghz.

Clock Per Clock, the Q6600 is faster.

:T

The SB750 better be DAYAM special. To what it sounds, it apears they made a feature that still cant race with the Q6600. Not something to be proud about honestly.

I think AMD should work on dropping the TDP of there Quads. I would actuallly consider buying a 55-60W TDP Quad if AMD had one to offer at a very delicous price. Something close to one of there tricores.

Sorry AMD, you guys lost the speed race, and not by a little. The size of alaska wouldnt be big enough to give an acccurate comparison.

Just admit it, and work on making things greener and cheaper!

Sorry i got green thumb going on. :T

 

[ther00kie16]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
AMD still needs to lower their power consumption and until AMD reaches 4Ghz on air, Intel has them beat. Common AMD!

at ripping.org, one person got a 6400 to 4ghz on air.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: ther00kie16

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
AMD still needs to lower their power consumption and until AMD reaches 4Ghz on air, Intel has them beat. Common AMD!

at ripping.org, one person got a 6400 to 4ghz on air.

were talkinga bout quads.

No duals.

If we take that into account: The average E8400 does 4ghz on air. :\ And those clock way better per clock then AMD.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Originally posted by: ther00kie16

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
AMD still needs to lower their power consumption and until AMD reaches 4Ghz on air, Intel has them beat. Common AMD!

at ripping.org, one person got a 6400 to 4ghz on air.

link?

 

[ther00kie16]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: ther00kie16

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
AMD still needs to lower their power consumption and until AMD reaches 4Ghz on air, Intel has them beat. Common AMD!

at ripping.org, one person got a 6400 to 4ghz on air.

were talkinga bout quads.

No duals.

If we take that into account: The average E8400 does 4ghz on air. :\ And those clock way better per clock then AMD.

Ok, what quad gets to 4ghz on air?
By the way, I was just stating something. Let's not turn this into AMD vs Intel again.
Check out XS, people there get Phenoms up to 3.5ghz while average is more like 3.2
And 3.8ghz is a bit of a stetch for q6600. A more reasonable range is 3.2-3.6ghz. Some of the recent batches can't even hit 3.6ghz on water.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: ther00kie16
Ok, what quad gets to 4ghz on air?

QX9650 Easy as Apple Pie on Air @ 4.0ghz.

Yes i know its a QX chip, but intel DOES have it.

Some Q6700's also ive seen do 4.0ghz on air. It was a very nice quad.

Most of them flat out at 3.8ghz.

Ummmm AMD cant even hold the lower wall on the Q6600 stable.


And im not speaking as an intel fanboy. If i was, i wouldnt own a spider. Last time i checked, there was a big fat 9850BE sitting inside Erinyes. :T

Unless she's a Intel disguised as an AMD.

 

[Sylvanas]

Originally posted by: Foxery
What strange and vague little articles... is this code for, "oops, our previous chipsets/motherboards had a glitch holding us back?"

The SB750 was not ready for the launch of the RD790FX, so they stuck with the SB600.

Foxconn have already launched an RD790FX/SB750 board, others are set to follow but most interesting will be this combination with the new 790GX.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Could the SB be the limiting factor when OCing phenoms? Some of the XS members state this because of their phenoms being able to crunch F@H 24/7 at 3.0GHz or so til they start browsing the internet which results in BSOD, or windows crash. (They are fine for load, even with prime/memtest etc, but fail idle tests) Maybe it has to do with the phenoms not syncing well with the rest of the board since the SB is the one taking care of USB/PCI/SATA/IDE controllers.

Its about time the SB600 gets updated. The 790GX (HD3300 IGP) looks the most interesting, as it even has its video framebuffer (128mb) on the motherboard itself.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: Foxery
What strange and vague little articles... is this code for, "oops, our previous chipsets/motherboards had a glitch holding us back?"

you speak code too? I Thought I was the only one!

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: ther00kie16
Ok, what quad gets to 4ghz on air?

QX9650 Easy as Apple Pie on Air @ 4.0ghz.

Yes i know its a QX chip, but intel DOES have it.

Some Q6700's also ive seen do 4.0ghz on air. It was a very nice quad.

Most of them flat out at 3.8ghz.

Ummmm AMD cant even hold the lower wall on the Q6600 stable.


And im not speaking as an intel fanboy. If i was, i wouldnt own a spider. Last time i checked, there was a big fat 9850BE sitting inside Erinyes. :T

Unless she's a Intel disguised as an AMD.

And I bet the Q9xxx could hit 4GHz on a consistent basis if it wasn't neutered by its low multiplier. It'll be nice to see what the Q9650 can do but even then with its 9x multi...having 10x really would be nice...

 

[Kuzi]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Could the SB be the limiting factor when OCing phenoms? Some of the XS members state this because of their phenoms being able to crunch F@H 24/7 at 3.0GHz or so til they start browsing the internet which results in BSOD, or windows crash. (They are fine for load, even with prime/memtest etc, but fail idle tests) Maybe it has to do with the phenoms not syncing well with the rest of the board since the SB is the one taking care of USB/PCI/SATA/IDE controllers.

Its about time the SB600 gets updated. The 790GX (HD3300 IGP) looks the most interesting, as it even has its video framebuffer (128mb) on the motherboard itself.

So probably the new SB will improve stability for OC'ed Phenoms, but not increase the OC frequency much compared to current OC limits.

AMD needs Shanghai/Deneb as soon as possible.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

And I bet the Q9xxx could hit 4GHz on a consistent basis if it wasn't neutered by its low multiplier. It'll be nice to see what the Q9650 can do but even then with its 9x multi...having 10x really would be nice...

which is why i grabed a QX, didnt pass go, went directly to 4ghz.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: Kuzi
AMD needs Shanghai/Deneb as soon as possible.

Depending on how aggressive Intel ramps Nehalem to volumes for the server markets, I'd argue Shanghai is already a year too late to help and AMD needs Bulldozer as soon as possible.

I don't see Deneb doing jack to recover ASP's in the desktop SKU's with Allendale/Havendale breathing down its neck.

And Shanghai isn't going to do enough to defend existing ASP's in the multi-socket server SKU's with Bloomfield basically taking the crown of every last remaining metric of success with IMC and HT combined with 45nm HK/MG.

What's AMD going to do? Have their flagship Deneb priced to $90? There is no rosy future here save for Intel electing to intentionally not put this thing out of its misery.

The internal temp on this goose is hitting 350F, it will soon be time to say the goose is cooked.

 

[iooiioio]

AMD would do best to stick to budget store IGP computer pieces, and invest in 45nm Opterons. They do still own the datacenter crowd. It's time to cut their losses on the phenom line.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

And I bet the Q9xxx could hit 4GHz on a consistent basis if it wasn't neutered by its low multiplier. It'll be nice to see what the Q9650 can do but even then with its 9x multi...having 10x really would be nice...

bunny this statement is absolutely correct.

9x multi Q9650 ES
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/Capture3.jpg

 

[Soulkeeper]

i wanna see 45nm amd quads this year ... i can't justify buying a 125Watt TDP quad that don't oc worth a damn, nomatter how cheap it is.
amd always seems to do great with what they have, problem is they don't have 45nm ...