AMD's new 780G chipset........HD3200 graphics!

[daveybrat]

This board is looking fantastic for an HTPC. Thinking seriously now about building myself one with a 4000+ X2 cpu.

http://www.tomshardware.com/20...3/04/amd_780g_chipset/

Nice performance, low power consumption and even the ability to overclock the GPU in the bios. Performs pretty nicely when overclocked for an integrated solution.

 

[KingstonU]

Nice. This makes me think that the idea that discreet graphics cards will one day be unneeded becomes more realistic.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Blu-Ray playback with a semprom 1.8GHz @ 60% cpu usage

Dang . . . Tom OC'ed the onboard video to 950MHz and almost got 2000 3dmarks

""Hybrid-Crossfire"" with the onboad video pretty much gave him a 60% increase in frame rates across the board - but it looks like available 'Hybrid-Crossfire' cards are currently limited. I wonder if that is up to the vendor to configure?

Tom's Conclusion

Rival Intel is put to shame by AMD's chipset in every single one of these categories. And although Nvidia recently released a similar product with the GeForce 8200 mGPU, we have yet to receive a review sample.

Ouch!

+1 for DAAMIT

 

[SlowSpyder]

That's pretty crazy... they were able to overclock the IGP from the stock 500mhz to 950mhz... almost a 1ghz integrated graphics processor.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: KingstonU
Nice. This makes me think that the idea that discreet graphics cards will one day be unneeded becomes more realistic.

well its been that way for a while now, most of the current ones can even do HD with a fast enough cpu.

the only thing you need a discreete card for is gaming. I don't even really know why they make cards like hte 8400gs anymore.

 

[narreth]

Wow, integrated that pwns my PC.

That's so sad!

 

[BlueAcolyte]

Intel got pwnt.

 

[AzN]

This is a sweet chipset indeed for HTPC. Definitely have a place in the market.

 

[sandorski]

The fruits of the ATI acquisition are beginning to ripen. Whether they can Sell them though remains to be seen.

 

[daveybrat]

Originally posted by: sandorski
The fruits of the ATI acquisition are beginning to ripen. Whether they can Sell them though remains to be seen.

24 Boards From 13 Companies Announced

Looks like everyone is jumping on the chipset. Good news for us as we'll have some decent choices now when building a nice little HTPC. I think i'll be looking at the Gigabyte board myself.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: sandorski
The fruits of the ATI acquisition are beginning to ripen. Whether they can Sell them though remains to be seen.

there is no other choice

what intel?
.. it is primitive by comparison

toms mentions

Nvidia recently released a similar product with the GeForce 8200 mGPU, we have yet to receive a review sample.

. . .that would be the [only] competition

 

[daveybrat]

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$35 w/free shipping

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Use Promo code EMCADAEAG (for Newegg email subscribers)

Here's Nice cheap processor to pair up with one of these. Low power consumption and 1MB of cache.

 

[soccerballtux]

Now if only AMD would make their own mobos so they could guarantee production for 18 months like Intel does or even 24... then I could convince my company to go with them...

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: daveybrat
even the ability to overclock the GPU in the bios.

I believe the 690G was capable of that. My Biostar Tforce690G had that setting in BIOS for IGP clock.

Originally posted by: apoppin
toms mentions

Nvidia recently released a similar product with the GeForce 8200 mGPU, we have yet to receive a review sample.

. . .that would be the [only] competition

I don't think it is much competition right at this second because preliminary word is that the drivers are not ready. AMD has an opportunity if retail boards with working drivers have a few weeks/months headstart on the 8200.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: daveybrat
even the ability to overclock the GPU in the bios.

I believe the 690G was capable of that. My Biostar Tforce690G had that setting in BIOS for IGP clock.

Originally posted by: apoppin
toms mentions

Nvidia recently released a similar product with the GeForce 8200 mGPU, we have yet to receive a review sample.

. . .that would be the [only] competition

I don't think it is much competition right at this second because preliminary word is that the drivers are not ready. AMD has an opportunity if retail boards with working drivers have a few weeks/months headstart on the 8200.

i didn't mean AtM

intel's chipsets are no competition ... nvidia's are the [only] competition we can expect next ... soon .. unless intel pulls something off that is completely unexpected

 

[Cookie Monster]

Intel IGP's fail miserably when it comes to gaming of any sort. But the difference is that the user can select either the AMD or Intel CPU route when building a HTPC or an office machine. We all know the kind of performance difference between the current Core2duos and the Athlon64 X2s. The G35 at a system level/performance isnt as bad as some people seem to suggest compared to the 780G (although it lacks some features that might tip the favor to AMD such as the superior video engine). The real contender to the 780G is the G45s and they are going to be released sometime early this year.

Then we have nVIDIA and its 8200/8300 (MCP78) which will also bring quite the pressure on both camps (seeing as the MCP78S is faster than the RS780 while the MCP78U is going to go up against RS780G). Difference is that nV is releasing IGPs for both intel and AMD.

Thanks to ATi and nVIDIA, the IGP market is getting more interesting than it ever was. Look at just how intel gets completely out classed when it comes to gaming. The 780G is like 4~5 times faster in some scenarios.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Intel IGP's fail miserably when it comes to gaming of any sort. But the difference is that the user can select either the AMD or Intel CPU route when building a HTPC or an office machine. We all know the kind of performance difference between the current Core2duos and the Athlon64 X2s. The G35 at a system level/performance isnt as bad as some people seem to suggest compared to the 780G (although it lacks some features that might tip the favor to AMD such as the superior video engine). The real contender to the 780G is the G45s and they are going to be released sometime early this year.

Then we have nVIDIA and its 8200/8300 (MCP78) which will also bring quite the pressure on both camps (seeing as the MCP78S is faster than the RS780 while the MCP78U is going to go up against RS780G). Difference is that nV is releasing IGPs for both intel and AMD.

Thanks to ATi and nVIDIA, the IGP market is getting more interesting than it ever was. Look at just how intel gets completely out classed when it comes to gaming. The 780G is like 4~5 times faster in some scenarios.

 

[Xbox360gamer]

nice

 

[BoboKatt]

I read that whole artitcle and no mention of audio. Am I understanding the audio and video signal are combined and sent out over the HDMI? Is the audio still 5.1 DD or will it actually output raw data to my Onkyo receiver that support TrueHD and DTS-HD??

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: BoboKatt
I read that whole artitcle and no mention of audio. Am I understanding the audio and video signal are combined and sent out over the HDMI? Is the audio still 5.1 DD or will it actually output raw data to my Onkyo receiver that support TrueHD and DTS-HD??

Gigabyte web site

ALC889A with DTS Connect
1 x optical S/PDIF Out connector
7.1+2 Channel High Definition Output
The ALC889A provides support for 7.1 sound playback, plus 2 channels of independent stereo output (multiple streaming) through the front panel stereo outputs.

If I remember a previous discussion correctly you must output the audio stream over the optical S/PDIF Out connector to fully utilize all the goodness of ALC889A. (This has something to do with hdmi standard 1.2 v. 1.3 ??)

 

[JACKDRUID]

awesome! good job AMD!

Intel really should stick to its CPU business.. its IGP sucks big time!

The only possible competitiion now is Nvidia's 8200... but looks like AMD has got a head start this round

 

[Dman877]

Any chance of this chipset making it into a laptop?

 

[lookouthere]

Does anyone know if the Hybrid Crossfire support 2600series?

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: Dman877
Any chance of this chipset making it into a laptop?

99% chance it will be in some form or another.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: Dman877
Any chance of this chipset making it into a laptop?

I read somewhere that a mobile version designed on the Griffin/Puma platform was quite possible. The 780g stole some design standards from the 780m. I haven't seen any specific OEM info.

It looks like the Gigabyte board is holding back Sideport. I can't find any info on the Asus or ECS regarding sideport ... From Legit Review:

In-between the 780G chipset (code name RS780) and the processor heat sink one can spot the SidePort memory chip. This is nothing more that local frame buffer attached to what ATI refers to as their 'SidePort'. The SidePort is a 32-bit DDR memory interface that the integrated graphics can use either instead of or alongside the processors memory controller. The memory capacity can be between 16MB and 128MB, which is said to improve graphics performance where memory usage is high by nearly 5-10%

Tech Report has a review up ...

AMD's 780G chipset
Integrated graphics all grown up