AMD's first consumer level 3Ghz dual core. The 6000+ X2

[locutus12]

Originally posted by: RichUK
it?d be like investing your money into a netburst chip.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha *breathes*... Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah


netburst ?! dear god, nothings that bad.

Originally posted by: Wino



The sad part for AMD though is by the time their 65nm line 'matures', Intel will have 'immature' 45nm chips shipping.

how is that sad ?? Intel have always been ahead with the Nm process, you dont automatically get a jump with it. the K8L (which is actually K9 but some bright spark at AMD decided they didnt want it associated with dogs... so now its associated with its previous gen *roll eyes here*) is a nice redesign that will offer significantly better performance per watt than conroe and should be able to pull up level with penryn.

 

[locutus12]

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[Zap]

Originally posted by: RichUK
it?d be like investing your money into a netburst chip.

Haha. That would have been a good investment 4 years ago... just the march of technology.

Actually I was thinking of purchasing a Netburst chip... one of the Celeron D chips with the Cedar Mill core. These are 65nm, which helped the Pentium D a bit in the heat department. Also, they are 512k cache. Remember how the Pentium 4 became a true contender when it went from Willamette to Northwood? That was a die shrink and a cache doubling. Well, the Cedar Mill is the same way over the Prescott Celerons. I think 512k is where the Netburst core really starts to not be cache starved. Anyways, for just over $50, it might be a "fun" chip to push for high GHz numbers (I'm thinking 4.6GHz on 800MHz FSB?) plus may be useful as a test CPU and a BIOS flasher CPU (like those Fry's deals where mobo needed new BIOS to support the E4300 chips).

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: RichUK
it?d be like investing your money into a netburst chip.

Haha. That would have been a good investment 4 years ago... just the march of technology.

Actually I was thinking of purchasing a Netburst chip... one of the Celeron D chips with the Cedar Mill core. These are 65nm, which helped the Pentium D a bit in the heat department. Also, they are 512k cache. Remember how the Pentium 4 became a true contender when it went from Willamette to Northwood? That was a die shrink and a cache doubling. Well, the Cedar Mill is the same way over the Prescott Celerons. I think 512k is where the Netburst core really starts to not be cache starved. Anyways, for just over $50, it might be a "fun" chip to push for high GHz numbers (I'm thinking 4.6GHz on 800MHz FSB?) plus may be useful as a test CPU and a BIOS flasher CPU (like those Fry's deals where mobo needed new BIOS to support the E4300 chips).

Actually for the Prescott derived core, the effect of 512KB of cache is a little different, while the Pentium 4 with a 20 Stage pipeline came into it's own with 512KB of Cache, the 31 Stage Pipeline Prescott derived technology is OK at 256KB and moderately better at 512KB but the critical difference seems to happen when you make the 512KB to 1MB shift.