AMD's content protection

[imported_thefonz]

Don't you just love DRM?


"There is a short list of parties who will be unauthorized to access your frame buffer: You. There is a long list of parties who are authorized to access your frame buffer, and that list includes Microsoft, Apple, AMD, Intel, ATI, NVidia, Sony Pictures, Paramount, HBO, CBS, Macrovision, and all other content owners and enablers that want your machine to themselves whenever you?re watching, listening to, reading, or shooting monsters with their products"

http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/03/28/14OPcurve_1.html

I don't really know how significant this will be, as i don't rip movies. Could anyone explain this better? Do current ripping programs use the frame buffer to get the data from the DVD's and such?

 

[Nightmare225]

I think R600s prospective market just got a whole lot smaller. 🙁

 

[imported_thefonz]

Originally posted by: Nightmare225
I think R600s prospective market just got a whole lot smaller. 🙁

It should given the crap there trying to pull here. AMD does not have any "content" of its own to protect, there obviously getting a fat pay check from the MPAA, or a the individual studios.

 

[ForumMaster]

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: Nightmare225
I think R600s prospective market just got a whole lot smaller. 🙁

It should given the crap there trying to pull here. AMD does not have any "content" of its own to protect, there obviously getting a fat pay check from the MPAA, or a the individual studios.

duh. non the less, i still suspect this will be hacked in minutes if not in seconds. it all depends on how the software recognizes you as authorized. that could be easily defeated.

 

[fierydemise]

Don't worry this will be coming to nVidia soon enough. My guess is the content providers finished finalizing the restrictions very recently so since AMD didn't have R6xx out yet it go put in when nVidia does a refresh (and possibly their midrange and low end cards too) we'll see the same thing. That said unless it is built into the core I have no doubt it will be cracked quickly, if it is built into the core then it will take longer but I still expect it to be cracked.

 

[vhx]

It'll obviously be cracked or at the very least, prevent those companies from accessing your buffer.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: fierydemise
Don't worry this will be coming to nVidia soon enough. My guess is the content providers finished finalizing the restrictions very recently so since AMD didn't have R6xx out yet it go put in when nVidia does a refresh (and possibly their midrange and low end cards too) we'll see the same thing. That said unless it is built into the core I have no doubt it will be cracked quickly, if it is built into the core then it will take longer but I still expect it to be cracked.

Soon enough? Heck, I bet it's already done. The specs to HDCP are pretty clear, locking access to the framebuffer would be required to prevent people from making digital copies of unencrypted material.

 

[mercanucaribe]

I don't understand..

What does this do?

How would it affect me?

How does it stop piracy? Does anyone use DVI input cards to record DVDs? No, because they don't exist AFAIK.

Why does everyone assume it can be cracked? People on AT said that HDCP would be hacked, but I still can't plug my digital cable box into my LCD monitor with DVI.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I don't understand..

What does this do?

How would it affect me?

How does it stop piracy? Does anyone use DVI input cards to record DVDs? No, because they don't exist AFAIK.

Why does everyone assume it can be cracked? People on AT said that HDCP would be hacked, but I still can't plug my digital cable box into my LCD monitor with DVI.

HDCP copy protection HAS been cracked. just becasue its not available to you/ there are no devices mode to utilise it doesn't mean it hasn't been done.

 

[Nightmare225]

What about all the average joes who won't want to mess around with hacks and the like? Those who just bought their computer pre-made for gaming and some video editing/copying.etc.

 

[Arkaign]

If AMD tries to make this a standard, they're going down in flames, unless Nvidia follows suit.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: Nightmare225
What about all the average joes who won't want to mess around with hacks and the like? Those who just bought their computer pre-made for gaming and some video editing/copying.etc.

won't affect them. it'll probably only activate when playing HDCP protected movies. and if i recall correctly the HDCP implmentation deadline was increased to some years in the futre before all movies will be protected

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
If AMD tries to make this a standard, they're going down in flames, unless Nvidia follows suit.

I seriously doubt AMD wants to do this, I think more its the MPAA/RIAA is forcing it on them similar to Microsoft and Apple including all manner of DRM. As I said before if this is true (and I don't see why it wouldn't be) nVidia will be implementing similar imminently if they haven't already.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Do you really think AMD, Microsoft, or Nvidia want to implement all this copyright DRM crap. They know they are losing customers with increasing restrictions on digital content. Unfortunately they have no choice when the RIAA and movie industries are breathing down their neck.