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AMD's Athlon XP 2000+ on sale in Japan

If they're already selling in Japan, hopefully that means AMD has had good 2000+ yields and can provide enough of them to get that price down.
 
Yup, they got then here in the US too, but no matter where you go unless you got money to spare you're better off waiting a month or two for prices to come down.
 
The 2000+ will likely fall in to the $325 - $350 price range VERY shortly.

That's about right, considering it outperforms a chip costing twice as much. 😀
 


<< The 2000+ will likely fall in to the $325 - $350 price range VERY shortly.

That's about right, considering it outperforms a chip costing twice as much. 😀 >>



LOL From Pricewatch. Intel P4 2.0ghz= 395.00

Twice as much eh? LOL Back to school for you! 😀 😀

But you are correct it is faster at normal clock speeds.
 


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<< The 2000+ will likely fall in to the $325 - $350 price range VERY shortly.

That's about right, considering it outperforms a chip costing twice as much. 😀 >>



LOL From Pricewatch. Intel P4 2.0ghz= 395.00

Twice as much eh? LOL Back to school for you! 😀 😀

But you are correct it is faster at normal clock speeds. >>



I was referring to the 2.2GHz Northwood, actually. $660+

There's no competition between the 2000+ XP and the 2GHz Willamette. The XP eats it for dinner.
 
cool, hopefully it will drive the other prices down .. but anyone have any idea when amd will stop this xxxx+ pr ratinge bs? .. or this "xp" mess, it makes me sick also heh ..
-neural
 
wonder if Intel would lower the cost of their processor to AMD lvl -so I can go back try to build an Intel systems again 😀
 


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<< The 2000+ will likely fall in to the $325 - $350 price range VERY shortly.

That's about right, considering it outperforms a chip costing twice as much. 😀 >>



LOL From Pricewatch. Intel P4 2.0ghz= 395.00

Twice as much eh? LOL Back to school for you! 😀 😀

But you are correct it is faster at normal clock speeds. >>



I was referring to the 2.2GHz Northwood, actually. $660+

There's no competition between the 2000+ XP and the 2GHz Willamette. The XP eats it for dinner. >>



My apologies. I thought you were trying to compare released chips.

And I've already said you are correct about the two chips at their set clock speed.
 


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<< The xp2000 will really outperform a northwood? How did you find that out? >>



I second that. 2.2GHz Northwood will wipe the floor with the XP 2000+ quite easily, I'm pretty sure. Combine it with the upcoming VIA P4X333 chipset, and U will get performance far superior the the AMD platform. Northwood will eradicate the low performance issue found in Willamete, and be on top. Sigh. Yes, I have to agree that Northwood's price will be way too high... Twice more... Yes, Athlon XP is a better value than Northwood, but the performance will be clearly lower. >>



As much as I love it I dont think its the case at stock speeds. Overclocking speeds are a diferent story 🙂
 
Candoman wrote:

"I second that. 2.2GHz Northwood will wipe the floor with the XP 2000+ quite easily, I'm pretty sure."

Better rethink that. The 2.2GHz Northwood is easily beaten by the 1900+ XP in many, many areas. The 2000+ XP will only increase that lead and bring the two so close in other areas as to be negliglible. Thus, the only consideration left is cost. $350 against $660 or so. Hmm, a tough choice.

"Combine it with the upcoming VIA P4X333 chipset, and U will get performance far superior the the AMD platform."

LOL... Pray tell how you ever got the idea VIA was leading the performance arena. P4X266 was plagued with issues (besides being a rogue chipset in the first place) and I wouldn't touch P4X266A with a ten foot pole -- especially when it is clearly beaten (as are all other current P4 chipsets) by the spectacular SiS 645.

"Northwood will eradicate the low performance issue found in Willamete, and be on top."

That's what I had hoped; but, alas, Northwood is doing no better than 5-10% faster than Willamette at the same clock.

"Sigh. Yes, I have to agree that Northwood's price will be way too high... Twice more... Yes, Athlon XP is a better value than Northwood, but the performance will be clearly lower."

"Clearly" is a matter of opinion. From what I've seen, there is no "clear" winner -- they're both on each others' ass. Although, as I said, the 1900+ XP already bests the 2.2GHz Northwood in many areas. And the 2000+ XP will only widen the gap.

Intel is going to have better. Much better. Because Thoroughbred, Barton, and Hammer are at hand.
 
Pabster, its far too early and we have seen far too little reviews on the 2.2ghz P4 for you to be so confident.

Lets wait for the big boys to get a hold of it and do some reviews.
 
Ok, I visited that link. but how does it determine that an xp beats a northwood.

"The 2.2GHz Northwood is easily beaten by the 1900+ XP in many, many areas. "

what areas, and how do you guys know that?
 


<< Ok, I visited that link. but how does it determine that an xp beats a northwood.

"The 2.2GHz Northwood is easily beaten by the 1900+ XP in many, many areas. "

what areas, and how do you guys know that? >>



Not all of us are contenting that 🙂

Just the AMD hopefuls 😀
 
I don't know about you but the reviews i've seen shows northwood hardly any more impressive then the original p4. XP still right on its tail. For 2.2ghz its definitely not at all impressive. Overpriced and underpowered. Of course that Just IMO.


Jason
 


<< I don't know about you but the reviews i've seen shows northwood hardly any more impressive then the original p4. XP still right on its tail. For 2.2ghz its definitely not at all impressive. Overpriced and underpowered. Of course that Just IMO.


Jason >>



the point is the reviews are not from mainstream sources ergo they really should not be trusted. Once we see some more trusted sites benchmarking the new chips, then we can start drawing opinions.
 
The last "revew" we saw was in French but the benchmarks were clear. The 2.2Ghz Northwood clearly bested the 1900+XP.

So we know it will be closer with the 2000+XP and the stock Northwood.

We know however, that a Overclocked Northwood will "wipe the floor" with an overclocked 2000+XP.


If you want the Very Fastest Desktop Processor, and the extra $250 is no problem for you, the Northwood is the clear choice for the fastest CPU at this moment in time.
 
I saw one of these about a week ago I know a reviewer of another website and he had one. I will stick with my 1900+ thats gonna be overclocked to more than a 2000+
 
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