AMD XP 1800+ Thoroughbred or XP2000+ ????

[Awakened2002]

Which one do you prefer? I had the opportunity to buy either one and i chose the Thoroughbred. Did i make the right choice or should i have gotten the 2000+. Which one OC's better?

 

[Metalloid]

Thoroughbred A or B?

 

[Awakened2002]

I don't know. Just put in my order at Newegg earlier tonight.

 

[clicknext]

I'd say the Tbred was a better choice. Should easily overclock past XP2000+ speed.

 

[drewdogg808]

Originally posted by: clicknext
I'd say the Tbred was a better choice. Should easily overclock past XP2000+ speed.

agreed. if you're planning on oc'ing, tbreds the way to go.

 

[Awakened2002]

Sounds good then. Didn't really think about any other processor till i noticed the 2000+ was only $15 more expensive.

 

[Soulkeeper]

T-bred is much better whether it is T-bred "a" or "b"
the T-bred 1800+ is better ****you made a good choice ***
uses less power, lower voltage, overclocks better, runs cooler, .13u process .......

they stopped the palomino core at 2100+ for a reason

 

[clicknext]

If you're not doing any overclocking at all, period, then I would say you would actually be better off with the 2000+, because Palo and Tbred are pretty equal clock for clock.

 

[Awakened2002]

I plan on overclocking it. I'll be using an SK-7/Thermaltake smart fan II combo, this should be good right? I'm new to the OC'ing scene...

 

[Wind]

Originally posted by: Awakened2002
I plan on overclocking it. I'll be using an SK-7/Thermaltake smart fan II combo, this should be good right? I'm new to the OC'ing scene...

More than sufficient

🙂

 

[Awakened2002]

I got a Epox 8K5A2+ the other day. Should i put on a blue orb i have lying around or shoud the stock passive heatsink be good enough?

 

[clicknext]

You mean the motherboard chip? Stock cooling is good enough for that.

 

[TAandy]

Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Thoroughbred A or B?

I bought an XP 1900+ a couple of weeks ago. How can I tell what type it is? I think it's a Palomino, but I'm not sure.

 

[Awakened2002]

Originally posted by: clicknext
You mean the motherboard chip? Stock cooling is good enough for that.

Yeah, the one on the motherboard.

 

[Metalloid]

Originally posted by: andyjones

Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Thoroughbred A or B?

I bought an XP 1900+ a couple of weeks ago. How can I tell what type it is? I think it's a Palomino, but I'm not sure.

How big is the core? And what does it say? Also, where did you buy it from?

 

[TAandy]

Originally posted by: Metalloid15

Originally posted by: andyjones

Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Thoroughbred A or B?

I bought an XP 1900+ a couple of weeks ago. How can I tell what type it is? I think it's a Palomino, but I'm not sure.

How big is the core? And what does it say? Also, where did you buy it from?

Not exactly sure of the core size, but it says;
XP1900 DMT3C
AGOGAD2303TPOW
Y7597630116
if that's any help.
Bought it from Scan Computers in the UK

Does that help ? I've been doing some looking and I'm now pretty sure it's a Palomino.

 

[crisscross]

yup! that's a Palomino.

look here Athlon XP Guide

 

[acid16]

While on this subject, can someone please tell me the difference between Thoroughbred A and B? And what processors are using B... ? 2400+ ?

 

[TAandy]

Originally posted by: Tornado54
yup! that's a Palomino.

look here Athlon XP Guide

Thanks for that info.

 

[Jen]

Originally posted by: acid16
While on this subject, can someone please tell me the difference between Thoroughbred A and B? And what processors are using B... ? 2400+ ?

A is for 266 fsb
B is for 333 fsb


current B cores are 2600+ , 2700+ ,2800+ . there is a few 2400+s out there also that are B cores. suppose be more B cores showing up in the lower speeds 1700+,1800+ etc .


B cores have more headroom for overclocking from what i have been told.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Jen

Originally posted by: acid16
While on this subject, can someone please tell me the difference between Thoroughbred A and B? And what processors are using B... ? 2400+ ?

A is for 266 fsb
B is for 333 fsb


current B cores are 2600+ , 2700+ ,2800+ . there is a few 2400+s out there also that are B cores. suppose be more B cores showing up in the lower speeds 1700+,1800+ etc .


B cores have more headroom for overclocking from what i have been told.

I'm pretty sure that information isn't completely true.

Thoroughbred B stands for a new revision in the core of AMD CPUs announced in August. All processors 2400+ and on are manufactured on the Revision B core, and the majority of 2200+ cores are now Revision B (old stockpiles of Revision A cores still means there are possibilities to receive a 2200+ Rev. A core, but not all that common). Rev. B chips come in both 333mhz and 266mhz variants depending on the processors (haven't seen any 333mhz FSB 2400+ chips yet).

All processors 2100+ and below were manufactured using the Revision A core for the past several months, phasing out the Palomino cores. Now AMD is phasing out all Revision A cores by producing all of their chips using the Revision B process. But don't expect these Rev. B cores to be showing up for at least several months due to the stockpiles of chips AMD currently has to sell to vendors. This is the same thing that happened when AMD switched all processors to Rev. A, we didn't see the new lower grade chips for months.

There are a few technical differences between the Revision A and B cores, one being the added 9th metal layer which allows the processors to scale higher. Here's a take by Anandtech on it: Here