AMD VS INTEL

ZeuZdk

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Hi.. I know this is a popular question wich maybe discussed in other thread, but hope you will help me anyway.

I am about to buy a new system, and don?t know if I should go the AMD way with a XP2200+ (I currently run with a TB 800mhz), or should take another road with the new Northwood2 2.26 with 533mhz fsb.

I do think AMD is a bit behind, because of the heat and mhz race, but don?t know if it is a big prob.

If I should go the Intel road, any of you have know the Abit IT7 mobo, it should run NW at 533mhz fsb, but how is it overclocking compared to asus P4B533 mobo.

I hope you can help me?

Sorry about my English.
 

o1die

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If you have the money, go with Intel. Amd is incredibly cheap now, but will change it's cpu line at the end of this year. Go with the 1.6a or 2.26 for value and overclockability. The sis 648 chipset will be my choice if the price is right.
 

Darkranger

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I agree with the Intel route, definately the way to go at present.

I am also intersted in the ABIT IT7 board and would like to hear any comments on this from users.

Also you mention (o1die) the new SIS648 chipset, I have read a little on this and does seem a good choice for it's new features - DDR 400 etc. but how good are these SIS board these days. The last time I ever used SIS was some time ago and they suffered badly from stability/performance issues.
I believe they have improved alot recently but would like to hear more commments on this from users also....

Cheers
 

Soulkeeper

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I say pick up an athlon xp 1800+ (or higher if you want) throw it in a good kt333 board or if you feel like waiting: an nforce2, kt400, or sis solution
the kt333 is a great chipset with low prices right now
you will also be able to throw in a barton when AMD rolls those suckers out so you got an upgrade path
a lot of people around here like Intel right now cause the last few months it has held the speed crown by a few percent, but AMD chips are still a better Price/performance ration in my opinion (even tho a few people here will prob pull up a price list with some cheesy board and mem for a barebone P4 config)
current outlook from my perspective:
AMD route= wise spending
Intel route= braging for a few months cause yur 10% ahead in a few benchmarks heh heh
ohh well have fun buildin a system either way
 

ZeuZdk

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Thanks for the fast reply, and i will continue looking at the other thread also...

But I hope others will still post in this about IT7 and maybe other solutions and tips..


Thx again :)
 

Darkranger

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Intel v AMD
ChipZilla v The Underdog - still the great debate :confused:

I have been tracking current price differences for the 2 platforms over the last 4 weeks (albeit in the UK) and the difference here between an AMD 2000+ and Intel 2.26B Norwood platform are only approx £100 apart in favour of AMD. (using identical component specs)
This may seem like a lot to some, but the Intel should have the advantage in speed at default clocks. The Intel further gains the advantage in it's current superior oc ability.
Also I still rekon Intel P4 platform has the upperhand in upgrade path, although I don't know to much about the new 'Barton' or whether this will run in current AMD boards, and who knows just what's around the corner.

I'm in now way PRO INTEL, just the opposite i'm all for the underdog - however when it comes to spending your hard earned cash, you makes the choices and you pays the price, and at this moment in time I rekon Intel is a slighlty safer bet to place that hard earned cash.

IMHO

On the other hand ??? :frown:
 

txgixer

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Originally posted by: Darkranger
I agree with the Intel route, definately the way to go at present.

I am also intersted in the ABIT IT7 board and would like to hear any comments on this from users.

Also you mention (o1die) the new SIS648 chipset, I have read a little on this and does seem a good choice for it's new features - DDR 400 etc. but how good are these SIS board these days. The last time I ever used SIS was some time ago and they suffered badly from stability/performance issues.
I believe they have improved alot recently but would like to hear more commments on this from users also....

Cheers

I have been running the IT7 board for about a month now and it rocks. My 1.8a OC'ed to 2.4 with no problems. The onboard RAID is great. There are NO legacy ports so be prepared for a USB keyboard. However, with 8 onboard USB ports, no need for a hub. I have no complaints about the board so far.


 

Darkranger

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Thanks txgixer for the input

The no Legacy ports is exactly what i'm looking for, plus all the other goodies on this board :)
I have been waiting ever since the general adoption of USB for a mobo manufacturer to have the guts to make this move!
WELL DONE ABIT !!!

P.S.
How good do you think this board will be at ocing a 2.26B to 2.5 or above?
I don't want to aim to high initially - 2.550 @ 150fsb will be a nice start, anything above a bonus :D
Very concervative i know, but hey it's a start...... :cool:
 

Darkranger

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Just to add some more -

I've been away from ocing for some time and am new to the P4 arena.
My last overclock (and still current system) was a 633 Celeron @ 950mhz.

I'm now looking for a complete system overhaul from the ground up, and after much looking around these forums have decided to go for a P4 2.26B and push it 2.5 or over. (was going for a 1.6A but can't get them over in the UK no more) :(

I particularly fancy the IT7 (see previous post) but really could do with more input from user experience.....

I believe this board should not have any problem doing 2.26b @ 150 fsb = 2.550 and DDR 3:4 200mhz = 400 DDR using some good Corsiar XMS PC3200 Memory.

Correct me if I'm wrong, or suggest alternatives please

Thx

P.S.
I know there are a lot of EPOX fans on here, but I do like the ABIT boards (used several in the past withought a single failure yet) but there dos'nt seem to be many posts regarding this board :confused:
 

Rainsford

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Several things to consider here.

Upgrade Path: Many people have posted that Intel is a safer upgrade path, however, I'd like to point out that Barton will still be socket A and while next gen P4 is supposed to be Socket 478, Intel has changed it's socket frequently in the past. I'd be warry of getting an Intel board and expecting to be able to put a next gen chip in it at a later date. Even the P4 changed sockets only a few months after it was released. Doesn't seem like a very safe upgrade path to me. But I suppose Intel could continue to use Socket 478, I'm just saying nothing is for sure. And Hammer will not be socket A, but I think both platforms will continue to be used for quite some time with the P4 ramping up and Barton.

Speed: The 2.26 P4 will be faster at most apps than the Athlon XP 2000, however it will cost significantly more $274 vs $160. To do a fair comparison, you should compare the XP 2200 which will be very close to the P4 is most benchmarks, and in real world performance I doubt you'd notice the difference. If you are planning on overclocking, the P4 will have an advantage. But remember that overclocking doesn't always work. As far as Intel having the performance crown or not, that doesn't really matter unless you're buying the fastest P4 (which your not). Unless you care about being on the "winning side", I don't think it matters much.

Heat: Fast P4's put out a lot of heat too, their stock heatsinks are just better than Athlon XP stock heatsinks. I guess Intel does win here, I'll admit they have a better cooling solution. But I have an Athlon XP 1800 with a low-flow Panaflo fan (14 cfm, 21dba) and a copper heatsink that does just fine with a few low-flow Panaflo case fans. My case is super quiet (except for my GeForce 4 which I'm working on). Despite what people say, building a quiet AMD system that still is cool is not difficult at all.

Bottom line. As most professional reviewers and analysts have said, either is a great choice. Neither has a substantial lead over the other, so it's really a matter of preference. If you want to save a couple of bucks and don't mind having to take extra care putting on your heatsink, go with AMD. If you want good overclocking and the piece of mind of an Intel system (even if I think that's silly, it's your money and piece of mind can never be overrated), go with Intel. Really, you will be happy with either an AMD or an Intel system.