AMD Turion: What socket 754 Desktop boards will they fit in?

HomeyFoos

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I recently built the rig in my signature and have decided that I would like to build a second system to play around with. Also something to have while I am OC'ing this machine (can see the net while I'm in bios, grab software if I need it, lots of other conveniences, etc).

Anyway, my boss tasked me with finding him a laptop and after looking around I was only able to find a few Athlon 64 lappy's (owned a P4 3.0 Prescott and a real P4 laptop and got sick of the heat and inefficiency so I am now on the AMD Bandwagon). I found tons of Turions, however. I wasn't sure if the Turion 64 was the same concept as the Athlon 64 (no FSB in lieu of onboard memory controller) but after some research, it appears that they perform the same as an A64 and run with less voltage and cooler. After reading this, I did a little pricing and found that I can get the MT-34 (1.8mhz 1mb L2 Cache) Turion for $189 and the MT-32 for $145 (1.8mhz 512k L2 Cache). Also, since this is a second system and I just laid out a couple grand for the other, I can save some money with a socket 754 board provided I can find one that this chip will work in.

So to finally address the point of the post, does anyone have an answer for me? Do you have a Turion running as a desktop? What Mobo do you have? How does it perform? I have this power-monger sitting next to me so if I get a second machine, I don't want it dimming the lights or heating the room too much (more).

I have also heard that because of it's inherent qualities, that the Turions are excellent overclockers in their own right. This all sounds a little too good to be true for me not having really ever heard their praises sung (not to say I'm tapped in, but I read this board every day trying to learn and I've just never seen anyone mention them).

Any help would be greatly appreciated as it seems like a great way to get some performance at a low price point. Much better than the semprons, anyway.




 

Shenkoa

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My notebook has the MT-32. Not sure about it being in a desktop, I assume it wil fit any socket 754 mobo.
 

HomeyFoos

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I was able to find an article that said it could be used in some socket 754 desktop boards but it did not elaborate. I would tend to think that it would work in most newer boards but that is just me speculating.

Also, I realize I said 'fit' in the title of the post, but I meant to say 'work' due to what I read in the article.

How do you like your laptop? Is it efficient? Does it get hot?



 

NewBlackDak

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There are some boards that refuse to initialize it because of the 'Cool N Quiet' and 'PowerNow' differences.
From what I've seen most enthusiast boards will work fine with them though since they setup the CPU via BIOS instead of through CPU VID codes.

I'm looking for one right now too. I have an MT-40 coming for my laptop, and I want to put the ML-34 to good use in a desktop board.
 

HomeyFoos

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I was looking at the EPoX EP-8NPA SLI Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard. It seems to be the only SLi 754 board out there from a manufacturer I've heard of. I didn't do a tremendous amount of searching because once I found this I decided that if Ic ould get some feedback on whether or not it would work, I would just buy it. It's only $90 and the chip is $140. I can give $230 a shot to see if it's what I think it will be.

My plan is to run this as a media center and put it in the Lian Li PC-V800B desktop (looks just like my PC-V1000BPlus case only a flat version) with a nice hauppage capture card/tuner and SLi'd 6800GS's (or something close - who knows). I will probably throw an X-Fi in there as well and I will still be around $1000.

I looked into the s754 chips available and there are only a couple left and most are .13nm instead of .90nm and the one that is .90nm is inferior to the HT-34 from what I can tell.

Anyway, I know this topic is not big on alot of people's list but if you do hear anything, I would love for you to share it with me on this thread.


Thanks as always,



 

Hacp

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Just get a Venice and Overclock that. No need to worry about compatability. I really don't think the SLI mobo will allow DTR chips.
 

NewBlackDak

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A turion is not a DTR. The DTR's are in fact normal S754 athlon 64s that have been qualified for lower voltages. They'll work in any desktop board, and OC very well with default desktop voltage.

Getting a venice is good and all, but what if you already have a working S754 processors that runs very cool with low voltage?
I think a Turion would make a great MCPC processor if you can get it to post!!
 

Hacp

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Originally posted by: NewBlackDak
A turion is not a DTR. The DTR's are in fact normal S754 athlon 64s that have been qualified for lower voltages. They'll work in any desktop board, and OC very well with default desktop voltage.

Getting a venice is good and all, but what if you already have a working S754 processors that runs very cool with low voltage?
I think a Turion would make a great MCPC processor if you can get it to post!!

actually, I believe that you can only use DTR chips on some specific mobos. And also, I think you need special bioses for the DTR chips.
 

HomeyFoos

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Thanks for the link. I had read that article but didn't see the link to the list of tested mobo's. What's really confusing is one EPoX board 'worked' (though didn't list if there were any limitations but was listed in the 'worked with some success group' though it didn't specify) and a different board didn't 'work'. Wouldn't post.

So I think I'm gonna buy the Turion and the AMD 754 (I'm really locked into this board because it is so affordable and so are the CPU's) and if I can't get the Turion to work properly, I'll just turn it over. Anyone interested in a once-used Turion?




 

Zap

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Originally posted by: HomeyFoos
SLi'd 6800GS's (or something close - who knows).

I would suggest a single 7900GT. What are we talking about for 6800GS, $170 is cheapest at Newegg and it's OOS, plus I've heard the 6800GS was a "limited" part. Well, all the 7900GT are OOS as well, but lowest one is $310 so cheaper than a pair of 6800GS, plus runs cooler, plus draws less power, plus performs better, plus you can still go SLI in the future if that floats your boat with two 7900GT cards. The only benefit of two 6800GS cards is if you already had them, otherwise they would not be the best choice.