AMD talks K10 and Shanghi

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Lifer
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http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=6918&red=y#comments



[*]the IMC can access memory in 64-bit channels (72-bit if you use ECC)[/li]
This way it is possible to read and write data simultaneously, or improve efficiency for irregular access patterns which increasingly occur in a quad-core environment


[*]Due to split power planes, the IMC can be clocked down independently of the CPU cores, along with reduced voltage[/li]
This also enables CPU overclocking without touching the memory frequency, something that may appeal to enthusiasts. These features are again dependent on Socket AM2+ and F+ platforms.

[*]quad-core design benefits from the internal crossbar switch the backbone of communication inside the K10 CPU. [/li]
With Intel's current quad-core design there are cases where data needs to travel over the FSB -- in AMDs case all inter-CPU communication takes place on-die.


[*]Amato also mentioned an array of power saving measures which, in sum, allow AMD to deliver a quad-core CPU in the same thermal envelope as today?s dual-core CPUs[/li]

[*]K10 adds the capability of independently clocking all the CPU cores.[/li]
This feature could possibly be abused by overclockers to overclock a single core above the specified levels. Amato clarified that AMD doesn't endorse overclocking, but acknowledges there are people interested in that. In a warranty case, AMD could detect PLL programmings out of spec which would deny the warranty.

[*]Amato closed the session by mentioning Shanghai as a successor to Barcelona in the server space for 2008.[/li]
Shanghai will be an improved quad-core architecture, which is supposed to be socket-compatible with current Socket F platforms.
Shanghai is a 45nm quad-core CPU featuring 6MB of L3 Cache.

 

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Lifer
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45nm in 08 for AMD. Shanghi, my guess, will likely add SSE instructions and logic with maybe some more cache logic to compete with Penryn and Nehalem. Though for general performance for 3D games and general purpose applications we will likely see no benifit like with any other AMD incremental upgrade. Though server applications and media editing programs will see a nice boost.

Nehalem's IMC I don't think will compete with AMD's IMC at a server perspective as AMD is years ahead in that regard. Though it would be interesting to see how lower memory latency will effect Nehalmes performance for 3D games and other memory latency dependent applications.


Competition is sweet.
 

Borealis7

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Amato clarified that AMD doesn't endorse overclocking, but acknowledges there are people interested in that.
he talks about OCing like its a cardinal sin or a fetish! maybe he barged into his son's room one day and found him "overclocking" his "machine"...

"awwkwaaard!!!"
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Borealis7
Amato clarified that AMD doesn't endorse overclocking, but acknowledges there are people interested in that.
he talks about OCing like its a cardinal sin or a fetish! maybe he barged into his son's room one day and found him "overclocking" his "machine"...

"awwkwaaard!!!"

Warranty and legal talk is all it is, Borealis.

The more important underlying piece of information that this gives us is that AMD is not ignoring even the enthusiast segment which is only a tiny percentage to the overall market.
 

thilanliyan

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Originally posted by: Borealis7
he talks about OCing like its a cardinal sin or a fetish! maybe he barged into his son's room one day and found him "overclocking" his "machine"...

"awwkwaaard!!!"

hehe..lol. :)