AMD stopped recommending holes around socketA

Papineau

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This document on AMD's website (look on page vii) indicates that AMD stopped recommending the motherboards manufacturers to put 4 mounting holes around the socketA.

How many motherboards actually had the holes and enough clearance for the installation of a big heatsink like the Alpha PAL8045? And besides the Alpha, which other heatsink was using those holes?

I'm planning to buy one of the dual Athlon boards in the next month, and I don't want my new computer to have the same noise level as a jet, so two Alphas with quiet fans would have been a dream, but now that AMD is not asking the motherboard manufacturers to put those holes anymore, I'm not sure which heatsinks to choose. Any advice?

For those thinking about watercooling, do you know of any kit geared (or easily upgraded) for dual CPUs?
 

HendrixFan

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The upcoming Epox 760MPX board will have the holes for larger heatsinks like the Alpha 8045, or the Swiftech heatsinks.

The board is due for release within a week from what Ive read.

I too have been planning on going for a dual AMD board with quiet fans, though Im planning on waiting for the .13 SOI Thouroughbreds.
 

Papineau

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The thing is, it's in the revision history of an official AMD document, and it's dated January 2002, so it's still pretty recent.

I'm sure the board manufacturers would prefer for the holes not be present, so they have a bit more room to route signals (or power and ground) on the inner layers. So if AMD doesn't recommend them anymore, you can pretty much forget about them on newer designs.
Especially given that not all boards adhere to the clearance area around the sockets.
 

dunkster

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The Alpha 8045 and Swiftech equivalent appear to be the best air-cooling heatsinks available, and the 4-bolt mounting system appears to be the most stable mounting system. I bought the 8045U because it was cheaper than the Swiftech.

I have a mildly overclocked 1600+ with Alpha 8045U, and I've never seen a cpu temp higher than 42C on my KR7A (Hardware Doctor monitor) under load.

Personally, I wouldn't buy a board at this time that did not allow the use one of these coolers.
 

hwstock

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<< This document on AMD's website (look on page vii) indicates that AMD stopped recommending the motherboards manufacturers to put 4 mounting holes around the socketA. >>



You can always drill the 4 holes yourself. How important can the traces near the CPU be? There are so many of them, punching through a few can't be that bad, and there is a good chance that the new configuration will end your cooling problems completely.
 

SpeedTester

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<< You can always drill the 4 holes yourself. How important can the traces near the CPU be? There are so many of them, punching through a few can't be that bad, and there is a good chance that the new configuration will end your cooling problems completely. >>



Lol, you should really add a "Wink" next to this. Some people might think your seroius.
 

m2kewl

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[/i] >>

Lol, you should really add a "Wink" next to this. Some people might think your seroius.[/i] >>



No kidding, soon we'll be reading horror stories from the recommendations...;)
 

Boonesmi

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on one of my pc's i use a zalman 5000 hsf, and it uses the 4 holes to mount, its on an epox 8kta3 (via kt133a chipset)
 

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<< [
You can always drill the 4 holes yourself. How important can the traces near the CPU be? There are so many of them, punching through a few can't be that bad, and there is a good chance that the new configuration will end your cooling problems completely.
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Or you could keep your case open and a spray bottle full of water nearby. Every time you notice your CPU temp getting to high just give the sucker a couple of spritzes of water to cool her down;)
 

HendrixFan

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Why not just have a full pitcher of water nearby? I hear that works wonders, someone posted it just recently, cant remember who....
 

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<< Why not just have a full pitcher of water nearby? I hear that works wonders, someone posted it just recently, cant remember who.... >>

I remember that post, ofcourse his temps were definitely a little to high...since his board was on fire :D