AMD Socket M2 may be delayed

[AMDrulZ]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29320

Not Good....

 

[TSS]

wheren't rumors already circulating that it would be Q2/Q3 for AM2? then Q4 for conroe or something?

this just makes me feel better about buying my socket 939 PC dont think i coulda waited untill july.

 

[Ike0069]

I think it's good news for the S939 owners.
Just the fact that it uses DDR2 RAM makes me wonder if I'll ever own one. There's a decent chance that the next socket will be close behind using DDR3.

 

[RichUK]

WORD HAS IT

lol they will make an article out of anything.

 

[the Chase]

Kind of bad timing if this is true. Intel is supposed to start sampling or using? DDR3 in 2007. So people buy M2 and DDR2 say at the end of 2006 and less than 1 year later Intel is on to DDR3 and AMD will be forced to follow at some point. I see a fairly short lifespan for socket M2. Wish AMD could have held out for DDR3...

 

[Aversio]

Originally posted by: the Chase
Kind of bad timing if this is true. Intel is supposed to start sampling or using? DDR3 in 2007. So people buy M2 and DDR2 say at the end of 2006 and less than 1 year later Intel is on to DDR3 and AMD will be forced to follow at some point. I see a fairly short lifespan for socket M2. Wish AMD could have held out for DDR3...

QFT I'm planning to skip M2 all together.

 

[d3lt4]

me too except if it has some awesome feature.

 

[thepd7]

I just got an x2 4800 so yeah im skipping it too

 

[Absolute0]

I am not really thinking about M2 right now, too much fun to be had with opties ATM.

 

[Furen]

Originally posted by: the Chase
Kind of bad timing if this is true. Intel is supposed to start sampling or using? DDR3 in 2007. So people buy M2 and DDR2 say at the end of 2006 and less than 1 year later Intel is on to DDR3 and AMD will be forced to follow at some point. I see a fairly short lifespan for socket M2. Wish AMD could have held out for DDR3...

DDR2 was introduced brought to the mass market during the summer of 2004 (Socket T's introduction). Considering that we're still using DDR a year and a half later and AMD's AM2 will be introduced a full 2 years later then I'd guess that this 2 year period is pretty much the time it takes a DRAM technology to achieve full maturity. Having AM2 live for about 3 years (1 Year before the introduction of DDR3 and an extra 2 years while it matures) sounds pretty reasonable to me.

 

[R3MF]

me too.

besides, AMD have said it will work fine for multicore.

the only thing i demand is out-the-box support for DDR2-800 on the both the CPU and the motherboard.

 

[Viditor]

I just don't understand how people can say they are skipping AM2 when they have no idea how it will perform...it's the same for those who say they are definately getting Conroe, when they have no idea how IT will perform!
Go Figure...

 

[the Chase]

Originally posted by: Furen

Originally posted by: the Chase
Kind of bad timing if this is true. Intel is supposed to start sampling or using? DDR3 in 2007. So people buy M2 and DDR2 say at the end of 2006 and less than 1 year later Intel is on to DDR3 and AMD will be forced to follow at some point. I see a fairly short lifespan for socket M2. Wish AMD could have held out for DDR3...

DDR2 was introduced brought to the mass market during the summer of 2004 (Socket T's introduction). Considering that we're still using DDR a year and a half later and AMD's AM2 will be introduced a full 2 years later then I'd guess that this 2 year period is pretty much the time it takes a DRAM technology to achieve full maturity. Having AM2 live for about 3 years (1 Year before the introduction of DDR3 and an extra 2 years while it matures) sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Well AMD delayed the transition to DDR2 because it was expensive, ran slower on the AMD64, and they generally lag some on their process ability. I think they were hoping to skip DDR2 altogether but the memory market(that Intel dictates) forced the change. How long they will delay the change to a new memory standard is anyone's guess. But yeah I'm sure peeps should get at least 2-3 years if not more out of M2.

I just recently went 939 maybe 5 months ago and will bargain hunt on 939 until I switch to a DDR3 platform. But for peeps that need an upgrade, M2 will rock!

 

[TrevorRC]

Originally posted by: Ike0069
I think it's good news for the S939 owners.
Just the fact that it uses DDR2 RAM makes me wonder if I'll ever own one. There's a decent chance that the next socket will be close behind using DDR3.

There was an article somewhere; and as it turns out, DDR2 is now on par/superior with DDR RAM.
(Now that timings have come down substantially)

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: TrevorRC

Originally posted by: Ike0069
I think it's good news for the S939 owners.
Just the fact that it uses DDR2 RAM makes me wonder if I'll ever own one. There's a decent chance that the next socket will be close behind using DDR3.

There was an article somewhere; and as it turns out, DDR2 is now on par/superior with DDR RAM.
(Now that timings have come down substantially)

And that clocks have come up.

Anyhow, DDR2 brings a lot of other worthwhile things to the table than just performance. It gets rid fo most of the headaches associated with DDR.

 

[Makaveli]

The only thing that has caught my attention with DDR2 so far is lower voltage, But as it matures it will indeed beat DDR.
Tho DDR500 with low latency or DDR600 capable sticks I think would even things out abit.

Specs

 

[imported_taku]

I dont know about the rest of the world. But price will be the main factor. As for myself I update when what i have become unusable for what ever reason. That means I dont buy the hottest thing going at the time . While some will rush to buy every new thing as it comes out, most will wait until they have a excuse to upgrade.

For some that only do email I suspect the old 8088 would do the job.
Currently i am using a P4 at 2.4 gigs. an socket A athlon xp barton at 1.8 gigs and somedays maybe i will get my busted amd 939 +3700 at 2.2 gig and a working mother board at the same time.

Swear AMD sent me a bad replacement. but would not the first mistake i ever made.

 

[DidlySquat]

I've been using S939 for about a year, and waiting for AM2 to also upgrade to dual core. I don't think it makes sense to upgrade to dual core now and still be stuck with DDR1/S939 for as long as you keep the dual core CPU, seeing that dual core is a relatively expensive proposition. I believe the M2 platform will provide an extra performance boost from the memory and also newer M2 processors which will have higher OC limits. So it looks like I will need a new mobo, CPU and RAM but the good part is that I'll actually be able to keep the old machine for other asks.

 

[whitewarrior11]

I think M2 will be quite good for people looking to upgrade..like myself I am not planning to upgrade this year though (I have a 1 and a half year old machine), since I consider myself mainstream and because I dont really have the money to upgrade more often. I think I will go dual-core with socket M2, along with a mobo, memory and video card changes (you see why I dont want to upgrade right now and I also dont have the money). I am running a P4 (socket 478) with AGP and DDR memory. My rig has done the job so far but I feel it's gonna have some slight problems with future software (I am thinking games, Vista, more dual-core optimized software, etc).

That leads me to one question: what does socket M2 has to offer, besides DDR2 support?

 

[RallyMaster]

I started the whole custom PC craze during the Socket A era. Never took the bait for S754 and I'm now using 939. Don't think I'll wait for AM2 and will probably end up with the one afterwards.

 

[Ranulf]

Meh. So what another 4-6 months for M2 and a X2 updgrade and then buy into the new tech (and likely suffer for it) or wait a minimum of 8-12 months for a stable M2 board etc. or just get a 939 setup now, which I can enjoy for the next 1-1.5 years. At which point I'd likely not need a new cpu just yet and can wait until the next big thing.