AMD Socket G34

Quiksilver

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Guess no one cares about the 8 to 12 core CPU's with quad channel DD3 that are supposed to be used on this socket.
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Guess no one cares about the 8 to 12 core CPU's with quad channel DD3 that are supposed to be used on this socket.

This topic was discussed quite a bit the last time it was "news"...maybe 2-3 months ago.

All that is new here is the geometry of the socket, hardly exciting to anyone but folks who make sockets for a living.
 

Raduque

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AMD switches sockets like I change underware. They need to just settle on a gorram socket and stay there. I thought 939 was supposed to last for 3 generations?
 

DrMrLordX

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They switch sockets every time they need to differentiate between platforms using distinctly different memory platforms and/or arrangements, though that does not entirely explain why they switched from s754 to s939, unless s754 boards could not physically accommodate dual-channel memory setups that s939 processors supported.

s754 = single-channel DDR
s939 = dual-channel DDR
AM2 = dual-channel DDR2
AM2+ = dual-channel DDR2 w/separate voltage planes for the memory controller and CPU cores
AM3 = dual-channel DDR2 or DDR3 per board specs
G34 = dual-channel DDR3 + extra pins as documented in the TG article

So yeah, while they do change sockets like crazy, there's usually a reason behind it. And honestly, I have no idea where AM3 is on their roadmap but I assume that it's still there.
 

aka1nas

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Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
They switch sockets every time they need to differentiate between platforms using distinctly different memory platforms and/or arrangements, though that does not entirely explain why they switched from s754 to s939, unless s754 boards could not physically accommodate dual-channel memory setups that s939 processors supported.

They couldn't, what did you think the extra 185 pins were for?
 

waffleironhead

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Originally posted by: Raduque
AMD switches sockets like I change underware. They need to just settle on a gorram socket and stay there. I thought 939 was supposed to last for 3 generations?

So what? Intel kept the same socket, but not all of the mobos would work with future chips.

915,925 no move to p4d.
same with the p4d capable boards, no wide support for c2d.
Are all first gen c2d boards c2q or 45nm capable?

Really kills the upgrade path even if the socket is the same. So i see no reason to not do away with am2.

 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Originally posted by: Raduque
AMD switches sockets like I change underware. They need to just settle on a gorram socket and stay there. I thought 939 was supposed to last for 3 generations?

So what? Intel kept the same socket, but not all of the mobos would work with future chips.

915,925 no move to p4d.
same with the p4d capable boards, no wide support for c2d.
Are all first gen c2d boards c2q or 45nm capable?

Really kills the upgrade path even if the socket is the same. So i see no reason to not do away with am2.

I'm a big believer in following the money. Why so many socket changes?

Who did it benefit financially to have all those socket changes? AMD? No. Mobo makers? Absolutely.

Why would AMD care to assist the mobo makers by creating planned obsolescence cycles? Perhaps it was the necessary carrot for convincing mobo makers to shun their 800lb gorilla master and create AMD mobo's in the first place...