AMD Socket "F" 1207 Sneak Pics

jiffylube1024

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Damn. I don't like the "pins on the motherboard" idea, but it saves money on the CPU and passes the cost onto mobo manufactuers, so I guess AMD wants to make even more money. Bastards!

Apparently this actually makes installing HSF's safer too because of the retention bracket, but I still don't like it.

Intel copied AMD with x64, but AMD is doing all of the copying for 2006: LGA, DDR2, etc. Thus is the patent sharing between AMD and Intel - it benefits consumers with a better product 99% of the time. It's only a matter of time before Intel puts an onboard memory controller onto their CPUs.

My position remains the same as always: buy whoever delivers me the best bang for my buck at the price range I'm looking at. Right now, AMD is still in the lead. Netburst can't die fast enough!
 

Drizzy

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Originally posted by: phaxmohdem
Its interesting to me how in regards to CPU sockets, AMD seems to follow Intel's lead.

Socket -> SlotA/Slot1 -> Socket -> LGA

Oh well, if it works and its cool then who cares!

http://tweakers.net/nieuws/39753

BTW it's in dutch so... yeah.

Well, intel still owns the major marketshare - I think it would be dumb of them to branch off completely and do their own thing. Until AMD commands the market they will probably just keep things similar enough that people can choose and feel like they are getting the same thing - little by little intels market shares will dwindle.
 

n7

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Since i don't understand that language, am i correct in assuming this is only on socket F, & s940 M2 is still like s939 is now?
 

Viditor

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Originally posted by: n7
Since i don't understand that language, am i correct in assuming this is only on socket F, & s940 M2 is still like s939 is now?

Haven't seen the M2 yet...but yes, this is only socket F (so far). Dual core Opterons with FBDIMM...yummmmmm! :)

We should make a list...
For modern CPUs, there's
S611 - Itanium2
S603 - XeonMP
S604 - Xeon
S775 - P4/PD
S478 - P4/Celeron
S754 - Sempron/A64
S939 - A64/Opteron 1xx
S940 - Opteron

Then there's next year
M2 - A64
SF - Opteron
S939
S1 - Turion64
S940
S754?

What are the Intel sockets planned for next year?
 

Dadofamunky

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I don't think this is a case of anyone following anyone. Does anyone say Juniper is following Cisco in making core routers that support BGP? This is a matter of packaging, which both companies, I assure you, are very much on top of and neither of which dictate all the terms of. There are other chip makers who deal with the same issues and it is a matter of engineering among standards bodies.
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Damn. I don't like the "pins on the motherboard" idea, but it saves money on the CPU and passes the cost onto mobo manufactuers, so I guess AMD wants to make even more money. Bastards!

Apparently this actually makes installing HSF's safer too because of the retention bracket, but I still don't like it.

Your points don't have much bearing on server systems.
It's for multi-processor systems, AFAIK (ie: Opterons). The heatsinks will probably b epreinstalled on all systems, the motherboards and CPU's are very expensive anyway compared to general desktop parts, because they are put through more tests and have more features, so a few pins on the mobo vs CPU won't make much difference, and the ease or safetey or anything else relating to heatsinks won't matter because you're not likely to be changing the heatsink on an Opteron system.

If they make desktop LGA CPU's/boards then it will be a slightly different matter, but for servers the desktop issues don't really apply.
 

RichUK

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Originally posted by: Cooler
I heard it even has bulit in pci controller on the chip.

this has been talked about, but i dont think it will happen until 65nm

EDIT: you mean PCI-e right
 

Nyati13

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Originally posted by: Cooler
I heard it even has bulit in pci controller on the chip.

PCI Express controller, a bit different than plain PCI. I've heard the rumour as well, but it hasn't been confirmed yet.

I've also heard DDR2 and FBDIMM support from day one, but also unconfirmed.
 

Nyati13

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Originally posted by: Cooler
I heard it even has bulit in pci controller on the chip.

PCI Express controller, a bit different than plain PCI. I've heard the rumour as well, but it hasn't been confirmed yet.

I've also heard DDR2 and FBDIMM support from day one, but also unconfirmed.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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i think this is a very novel and smart idea. put the damn pins on the MB, so that way if a pin is bent or out of whack it can easily be replaced with a replacement socket. makes you wonder why they didn't come up with this sooner?