AMD set to slash FX CPU pricing on September 1

[ShintaiDK]

Seems a round of pricecuts and (re)introduction of some OEM models into the DIY segment.

Said FX-9590, currently retailing at £225, will drop to around £175 on September 1, thereby competing against the Core i5-4690K. AMD says the FX 9590's greater multi-core ability will give it a clear and obvious lead for power users.
AMD will introduce three new FX 8-series CPUs at the same time, with two running at 95W, while the price of the popular FX-6300 is to drop from £80 to around £70.
Price cuts are the only way forward for the FX range until a new architecture takes over. Are these severe enough for you to reconsider the FX CPUs for your next PC build?

http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/73365-amd-set-slash-fx-cpu-pricing-september-1/

 

[SlowSpyder]

I have a second AM3+ motherboard. I've been thinking of an FX6300 or FX8320 for a while. Maybe I can save a few dollars in a few weeks.

 

[cbrunny]

Interesting. Curious about the new FX chips, but they'll be 8-series - seems really odd to me.

 

[positivedoppler]

If they lower the 8350 enough, i wonder if i can undervolt and under clock to get a cheap little web computer with 8 threads. But no igp kina bites

 

[MiddleOfTheRoad]

If they lower the 8350 enough, i wonder if i can undervolt and under clock to get a cheap little web computer with 8 threads. But no igp kina bites

Technically, you would have integrated graphics -- performance is usually awful. AM3 motherboards usually come with something like a Radeon 3000 built in.

As for underclocking and undervolting..... Sure, no problem. I played around with my FX-8320 and underclocked/undervolted to 2 Ghz -- and my Kill A Watt meter showed about 75 watts under full load at the plug. I was tinkering to see if an FX chip could work as a cool running, low power server (like a cheap Opteron) -- it worked pretty well.

 

[SPBHM]

am3+ would be more interesting if they had more cheap 970 motherboards with decent power delivery (8350 with no throttling), and by cheap I mean to compete with things like H81.

 

[Redstorm]

If they lower the 8350 enough, i wonder if i can undervolt and under clock to get a cheap little web computer with 8 threads. But no igp kina bites

No igp is good IMO, no wasted silicon.

 

[AtenRa]

am3+ would be more interesting if they had more cheap 970 motherboards with decent power delivery (8350 with no throttling), and by cheap I mean to compete with things like H81.

970 motherboards provide more features than H81, they cannot compete in price. Not even B85 has the same features.

For example, ASUS A597 LE R2.0 at $69,00 AR can support FX8350 no throttling. You get 6x SATA-3, USB-3 and CrossFire support (second PCIe at 4x).

 

[SlowSpyder]

At least when looking at full size ATX boards, aren't the prices pretty similar? Going by Newegg prices, it looks like they are. The H81 looks to be at least $15 cheaper if you look at things like micro ATX, though.

 

[AtenRa]

At least when looking at full size ATX boards, aren't the prices pretty similar? Going by Newegg prices, it looks like they are. The H81 looks to be at least $15 cheaper if you look at things like micro ATX, though.

Yea i have never understood why no micro-ATX motherboards with AMD 9xx series Chipsets.
Also, most people don’t know that H81 only supports PCIe Gen 2.0 no matter if your CPU supports Gen 3.0.

 

[SPBHM]

970 motherboards provide more features than H81, they cannot compete in price. Not even B85 has the same features.

For example, ASUS A597 LE R2.0 at $69,00 AR can support FX8350 no throttling. You get 6x SATA-3, USB-3 and CrossFire support (second PCIe at 4x).

you have to consider that this platform is old and with big disadvantages,
the only thing competing with H81 in price is 760G+sb710 which is hardly appropriate, if AMD can't go lower in price with the 970 solutions they should at least sell 760G(or better 880G)+SB950/920

because SB710 have no sata III support at all, while H81 have 2 sata III ports, and native usb 3.0, all performing great, and if you go to B85 you can add PCIE 3.0 to the list.

6 sata III to 2 sata III is not going to affect most people, 2 sata III to 0 sata III is.

same as "CF" specially with the useless x4 mode (not going to affect most people)

and as I said this older platform pay the price with the poor power efficiency, requiring more money to be used making sure the MB can handle 125W+ CPUs.

so yes, an AM3+ board with sata III (2 ports at least), fast USB 3.0 and enough power delivery to handle all CPUs (maybe not the 220w) for $50 (or less!) would be great, because you have options like this for 1150,

 

[ShintaiDK]

970 motherboards provide more features than H81, they cannot compete in price. Not even B85 has the same features.

For example, ASUS A597 LE R2.0 at $69,00 AR can support FX8350 no throttling. You get 6x SATA-3, USB-3 and CrossFire support (second PCIe at 4x).

Good thing H97 can then.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-525-_-Product

And you get PCIe 3.0 unlike the AM3 platform. And you get more USB3 ports and can avoid using Asmedia.
The only way your AM3 platform is competitive feature wise is essentially the 6 SATA6 ports vs B85(4) and H81(2).

 

[Sweepr]

I'd never build a new system based on one of the 220W power hogs. Price cuts were expected since Devil's Canyon introduction, they wont be able increase clockspeeds again to compete with 88W i7-4790K. I guess FX6300 and a few other 95W models would make sense for some people already using the AM3 platform and seeking reasonable MT performance on the cheap.

 

[Sattern]

Its always a good thing they are reducing their prices, I might have to rethink my next build and include that part in my collection.

Intel will probably counter that offer by releasing some other gizmo so I am better off just waiting.

 

[AtenRa]

Good thing H97 can then.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-525-_-Product

And you get PCIe 3.0 unlike the AM3 platform. And you get more USB3 ports and can avoid using Asmedia.
The only way your AM3 platform is competitive feature wise is essentially the 6 SATA6 ports vs B85(4) and H81(2).

We where talking about H81. Im sure Z97 has even more features

 

[AtenRa]

you have to consider that this platform is old and with big disadvantages,

What big disadvantages ??? PCIe gen 2.0 for a single card setup ???

The only disadvantage i could see is the lack of micro-ATX format.

 

[ShintaiDK]

We where talking about H81. Im sure Z97 has even more features

But H81 is also down to 40$. So why compare with a 70$ 970? The 760G is whats down there in that price. With no SATA6 and no USB3.

 

[Abwx]

so yes, an AM3+ board with sata III (2 ports at least), fast USB 3.0 and enough power delivery to handle all CPUs (maybe not the 220w) for $50 (or less!) would be great, because you have options like this for 1150,

Here such a uATX board cost about 50-60€ 20% VAT included, this generaly translate to 50-60$ in the US, with a FX8320 as CPU the cost is the same as a i5 4670 alone, using FX6300 will reduce cost only marginaly, about 30-35€ less, obviously the FX8320 has better value than the 6C.

 

[Abwx]

The only disadvantage i could see is the lack of micro-ATX format.

There are a few available in europe...

http://www.ldlc.com/informatique/pi...te-mere/c4293/+fv160-7121+fv285-607,1809.html

Not the cheapest here but quite representative products wise.

 

[AtenRa]

But H81 is also down to 40$. So why compare with a 70$ 970?

I have explained why 970 motherboards are at $70 and why they dont directly compete against H81.

 

[AtenRa]

There are a few available in europe...

http://www.ldlc.com/informatique/pi...te-mere/c4293/+fv160-7121+fv285-607,1809.html

Not the cheapest here but quite representative products wise.

I was talking with 9xx chipsets.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Uh oh. I wonder whether Microcenter has a price guarantee, since I just bought a bunch of FX8320 + 78LMT-USB3 combos about 2 weeks back...

 

[Abwx]

I was talking with 9xx chipsets.

Well, if you want to overclock that s another matter, i was talking of the average user.

 

[AtenRa]

Well, if you want to overclock that s another matter, i was talking of the average user.

Im sure they could release a $55-60 micro-ATX 970 motherboard.
Any way, for home and office all low budget motherboards both AMD and Intel are more than enough for the vast majority of users. Also most low-end low-price PCs sold are with mechanical HDDs, so SATA-2 to SATA-3 really doesnt make much difference.

 

[SPBHM]

Im sure they could release a $55-60 micro-ATX 970 motherboard.
Any way, for home and office all low budget motherboards both AMD and Intel are more than enough for the vast majority of users. Also most low-end low-price PCs sold are with mechanical HDDs, so SATA-2 to SATA-3 really doesnt make much difference.

you can find some very fast 256GB SSDs (like the MX100) for as low as $115 at newegg, I think now it's a reality that someone buying an $50 MB would consider using an SSD, because it have a huge impact on performance, unlike investing more on the motherboard.

even AM1 have sata III right?