DasFox
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Amazon has the 5600X at $199, I just bought one, for the specs, this is a pretty decent deal.
What you have is just fine. Are you sacrificing children for a 4090ti? Yeah, it will still be fine. 500 FPS mean nothing in day to day use.Between a Ryzen 5950X and a Ryzen 5800X3D, which CPU will be better in the long run for gaming, at least for the next 3 years. I'm right now using an 5800X with an Asus B550-F (Wi-Fi) motherboard and I'm trying to decide whether to upgrade to a 5950X or a 5800X3D. I'm mostly gaming on this PC but I also do office work (not that I need better productivity performance). I do know that if I upgrade to a 5950X, everything that is CPU intensive will be faster but if I upgrade to a 5800X3D, only some CPU intensive games will be much faster based on the reviews I read, and I will take a little performance hit in raw CPU performance and productivy.
LOL, that’s a good one! 👍Are you sacrificing children for a 4090ti?
DDR5 is the future due to massive bandwidth increase with higher RAM speeds. Future games/game engines will likely be developed to take advantage of this bandwidth. The V-cache on 5800X3D provides 2+ TB/s bandwidth. I think for gaming at least, the 5800X3D will age more gracefully.Between a Ryzen 5950X and a Ryzen 5800X3D, which CPU will be better in the long run for gaming, at least for the next 3 years.
Never too old to learn something new friend!I have a 3080 12GB card and usually spend my days playing 10 year old games like Kings Bounty and Civ 5 and 6.
I think I just got old and can't be bothered learning new games anymore.
One of these days I'll play something newer
Hah, wait until he discovers something like Factorio. That is the game that dominates my time. I have a 3090 and Factorio isn't even 3D...Never too old to learn something new friend!
Well you better starting player Newer Gen Games, or you wasted money on that 3080....I have a 3080 12GB card and usually spend my days playing 10 year old games like Kings Bounty and Civ 5 and 6.
I think I just got old and can't be bothered learning new games anymore.
One of these days I'll play something newer
I can't speak for him but I'm in a similar situation. I like having a good graphics card in case I try new games. But I usually end up going back to the classics I know I'll enjoy.Well you better starting player Newer Gen Games, or you wasted money on that 3080....
Like I always say; ‘The best hardware, only depends on your needs, nothing else’
Cores can only access the L3$ of the same CCX, which for Zen 3 / 5000 series equals CCD. Also the use of cores depends on the scheduler and doesn't work like linearly filling one CCX first and only using another CCX thereafter, Windows scheduler is actually randomizing it to spread heat between different cores. That's why not only does the second CCD in 5900X and 5950X most often not help with games but occasionally even have adverse effects due to threads communicating and migrating back and forth between different CCDs.Does the 64MB L3 cache on the 5950X get fully taken advantage of in gaming (games that use 8 cores or less) or the 32MB L3 cache on the 2nd CCD will be ignored until a game is using more than 8 cores since each CCD has 8 cores on the 5950X, therefore, the 2nd 32MB L3 cache of the 5950X will only be used in a game if the game is using more than 8 cores?
As expected, were running too high infinity fabric clock, resulting in whea-errors and throttling in the MT workloads..Little comparison between 5800x3d @ 4550/4450mhz with ~4066MT/s memory and 5950x @ ~5200/5050mhz with ~4000MT/s memory
5800x3d
SuperPi - 1M with BenchMate - 7sec 686ms - Ryzen 7 5800X3D @ 4567.2MHz
SuperPi - 32M with BenchMate - 6min 4sec 610ms - Ryzen 7 5800X3D @ 4567.2MHz
PYPrime - 2b with BenchMate - 8sec 397ms
y-cruncher - Pi-25m - 0sec 501ms - Ryzen 7 5800X3D @ 4461.1MHz
y-cruncher - Pi-1b - 32sec 75ms - Ryzen 7 5800X3D @ 4461.1MHz
y-cruncher - Pi-2.5b - 1min 32sec 459ms - Ryzen 7 5800X3D @ 4450MHz
wPrime - 32m with BenchMate - 2sec 340ms - Ryzen 7 5800X3D @ 4461.4MHz
wPrime - 1024m with BenchMate - 1min 4sec 98ms - Ryzen 7 5800X3D @ 4466.8MHz
7-Zip - 105612 MIPS - Ryzen 7 5800X3D @ 4467MHz
PiFast with BenchMate - 17sec 400ms - Ryzen 7 5800X3D @ 4567MHz
5950x
SuperPi - 1M with BenchMate - 6sec 696ms - Ryzen 9 5950X @ 5213.3MHz
SuperPi - 32M with BenchMate - 5min 32sec 276ms - Ryzen 9 5950X @ 5213.4MHz
PYPrime - 2b with BenchMate - 9sec 779ms
y-cruncher - Pi-1b - 20sec 433ms - Ryzen 9 5950X @ 4775.2MHz
y-cruncher - Pi-2.5b - 58sec 362ms - Ryzen 9 5950X @ 4750.2MHz
wPrime - 32m with BenchMate - 1sec 486ms - Ryzen 9 5950X @ 5059.6MHz
wPrime - 1024m with BenchMate - 29sec 504ms - Ryzen 9 5950X @ 5034.5MHz
7-Zip - 205233 MIPS - Ryzen 9 5950X @ 4950.1MHz
PiFast with BenchMate - 15sec 170ms - Ryzen 9 5950X @ 5234.9MHz
No way around it, in these memory benchmarks cpu clockspeed is still king in everything except in PYprime
(dual CCD with twice the cores and much higher write bandwidth also helps)
Did also some Geekbenches but results seem to be all the place, not really sure why
Geekbench3 - Single Core - 7390 points, Multi Core - 86068 points (ST and especially MT seems to be too low)
Geekbench4 - Single Core - 8104 points, Multi Core - 62264 points (Normal ST, MT score way to low)
Geekbench5 - Single Core - 1859 points, Multi Core - 17831 points (good ST, MT score way to low)
Think i have to do some more runs to figure out what going on here.. Could be down to whea throttling above 1900:3800 in the MT tests.
Windows 10 | Windows 11 | |
AMD WRX80 | Yes | Yes |
AMD TRX40 | Yes | Yes |
AMD X570 | Yes | Yes |
AMD B550 | Yes | Yes |
AMD A520 | Yes | Yes |
AMD X399 | Yes | Yes |
AMD X470 | Yes | Yes |
AMD B450 | Yes | Yes |
AMD X370 | Yes | Yes |
AMD B350 | Yes | Yes |
AMD A320 | Yes | Yes |
Windows 10 | Windows 11 | |
AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ PRO Processors | Yes | Yes |
AMD Ryzen™ 5000 Series Desktop Processors | Yes | Yes |
2nd/3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ Processors | Yes | Yes |
1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ Processors | Yes | No |
2nd/3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Desktop Processors | Yes | Yes |
1st Gen AMD Ryzen™ Desktop Processors | Yes | No |
AMD Ryzen™ 3000G/4000G/5000G Series Desktop Processors with Radeon™ Graphics | Yes | Yes |
AMD Ryzen™ 2000G Series Desktop Processors with Radeon™ Graphics | Yes | No |
AMD Ryzen™ Mobile 3000U/C, 4000U/H, 5000U/H/HS, 6000U/H/HS/HX Series Processors with Radeon™ Graphics | Yes | Yes |
AMD Ryzen™ Mobile 2000U Series Processors with Radeon™ Graphics | Yes | No |
7th Gen AMD A-Series Processors | Yes | No |
Driver Name | Windows 10 | Windows 11 | Change Details |
AMD Ryzen Power Plan / AMD Processor Power Management Support | 8.0.0.13 | 8.0.0.13 | New program supported added |
AMD PCI Device Driver | 1.0.0.89 | 1.0.0.89 | No change |
AMD I2C Driver | 1.2.0.119 | 1.2.0.119 | No change |
AMD UART Driver | 1.2.0.114 | 1.2.0.114 | No change |
AMD GPIO2 Driver | 2.2.0.130 | 2.2.0.130 | No change |
PT GPIO Driver | 3.0.0.0 | 3.0.0.0 | No change |
AMD PSP Driver | 5.19.0.0 | 5.19.0.0 | No change |
AMD IOV Driver | 1.2.0.52 | Not Applicable | No change |
AMD SMBUS Driver | 5.12.0.38 | 5.12.0.38 | No change |
AMD AS4 ACPI Driver | 1.2.0.46 | Not Applicable | No change |
AMD SFH I2C Driver | 1.0.0.86 | 1.0.0.86 | No change |
AMD USB Filter Driver | 2.1.11.304 | Not Applicable | No change |
AMD SFH Driver | 1.0.0.329 | 1.0.0.329 | Bug fixes |
AMD CIR Driver | 3.2.4.135 | Not Applicable | No change |
AMD MicroPEP Driver | 1.0.35.0 | 1.0.35.0 | Bug fixes |
AMD Wireless Button Driver | 1.0.0.2 | 1.0.0.2 | No change |
AMD PMF Driver | 22.0.2.4 | 22.0.2.4 | Bug fixes |
AMD PPM Provisioning File Driver | 8.0.0.13 | 8.0.0.13 | More flexible power slider setting on processor power management in AC vs DC power source |
AMD USB4 CM Driver | 1.0.0.20 | Not Applicable | S0i3 support with display(s) behind Thunderbolt/USB4 docks and few bug fixes |
AMD AMS Mailbox Driver | 1.0.0.495 | 1.0.0.495 | Bug fixes |
AMD S0i3 Filter Driver | 1.0.0.10 | 1.0.0.10 | No change |
I am slowly moving my servers off Xeon's and onto EYPC's as surpluses are trickling down.Hell, my next CPU will likely be the 5800X 3D. When I have a GPU that will benefit from it
I feel that. I live in Florida, and heat and noise are my arch nemesis now. Since they are henchmen of power, the Big Boss, ECO mode is my jam.I am slowly moving my servers off Xeon's and onto EYPC's as surpluses are trickling down.
Also i no longer require the 2nd cpu for extra pci-e lanes, as a single EYPC has ample PCI-E lanes for me to use, hence overall uses less power.