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Mopetar

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I've been holding off on an upgrade a lot longer than I probably should have but I'm definitely pulling the trigger on a new build now since all of the stars have aligned and I can get really good value on both CPU and GPU all at the same time.

I haven't really started researching yet, but does anyone have a strong opinion on the best board choices for a new ground up build. I've been saving up for quite a while and still have all my stimulus check money so I'm really not too concerned with cost if I'm able to buy something that will serve me well over the next six years.
 

eek2121

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So a single 8-core CCX is better than a two 6-core CCX's for gaming, for now and most likely 3-4 years into the future?
I thought it was interesting that the slides showed the 5900X beating the 5950X in some games.
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The 5900X has the same amount of L3 cache as the 5950X, which may explain the results above. I can see edge cases where the 5900X beats the 5950X due to this fact.
 

13Gigatons

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AMD is now too expensive....never thought I would see that day. I wish I had stockpiled the 2000 series when they were in clearance. It had plenty of horse power.


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Don't know what makes you laugh at high prices, the 5000 series starts at $300. This makes it harder to build an entire machine from scratch. The 2000 series was pretty good for most people and the price was great.
 

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Don't know what makes you laugh at high prices, the 5000 series starts at $300. This makes it harder to build an entire machine from scratch. The 2000 series was pretty good for most people and the price was great.
As another poster pointed out, we don't have the full stack yet, so it's a bit humorous to get worked up over the cost of building a new machine if you don't have any of the mainstream parts available yet. It'd be a bit like bemoaning the ability to get a new GPU because your only choices are a $700 3080 or a $1,500 3090.

But it's funny in general because AMD was always the "consumer-friendly budget" choice, but now even they're "too expensive" and the solution to this was supposedly stockpiling a bunch of Zen 2 chips, which is a funny thing to do unless you're building a lot of computers to sell to other people. Hoarding half a dozen Zen 2 chips for personal use is humorous notion.
 

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I have accepted that my will is too weak to resist Ryzen 3. I will be getting a 5900x. I recently helped a friend put together an 3600x build because his old machine failed and we have had no end to motherboard issues on X570 with an MSI board, extremely disappointing. That cools my enthusiasm a bit but I'm still going to take the plunge.

After this winter's upgrade cycle my guest computer will have the hand me down 5820k and a 1080 Ti on 1080p which is total overkill...
 

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That's very interesting! But it still trailing Renoir, I guess it's a side effect of having a separate I/O die.
I think I will move back to use 4x8GB B-Die then if my current 32GB modules don't scale well.
 

13Gigatons

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But it's funny in general because AMD was always the "consumer-friendly budget" choice, but now even they're "too expensive" and the solution to this was supposedly stockpiling a bunch of Zen 2 chips, which is a funny thing to do unless you're building a lot of computers to sell to other people.
Yes. It's hard selling AMD to regular people, they still only know Intel. The lower prices helped.
CPU: $129
DDR: $59
MB: $85
Case: $75
etc.
 

Kenmitch

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I recently helped a friend put together an 3600x build because his old machine failed and we have had no end to motherboard issues on X570 with an MSI board, extremely disappointing.
Which MB was it? What issues? I've had good luck with my MSI MB. Only issue I could complain about is loosing my 3800MHz memory overclock with the last 3-4 uEFI versions. No go on the 1900 FCLK anymore for some reason or another. Not sure what they changed, but never gave much effort to seeing if I could get it going again. It'll boot up fine, but it's not stable at all.
 

DrMrLordX

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Err so for Zen3 they recommend 4000mhz memory as sweetspot.. This is big if they mean 1:1 because that means even better latency and performance.
Wow. That'll be good for IF speeds. Not sure if DDR4-4000 will get you better latency than what you get from DDR4-3800 14 (which is attainable with b-die on Matisse). Also, sadly, nobody's really updating DDR4 so it's b-die or bust. Still.
 
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MrTeal

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Yes and I'm sure the 5000 series will be anemic compared to the 7000 series.:rolleyes:
Sure, and prices on the 5000 series will most likely be at the same low clearout level that 2xxx were once the 7000 drops. You might have been able to find the 2700X for $129 on a fire sale, but that launched at $329.
 
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13Gigatons

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Sure, and prices on the 5000 series will most likely be at the same low clearout level that 2xxx were once the 7000 drops. You might have been able to find the 2700X for $129 on a fire sale, but that launched at $329.
Exactly the reason I don't pay top price for things that depreciate so quickly.

I do appreciate early adopters subsidizing late adopters though.
 

phillyman36

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I sold my 3900x rig. For my 5000 build im getting
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Purchased)
Ryzen 9 5900x
Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Wifi
going for 32Gb ( 2 x 16GB sticks) of ram trying to see whats on QVL when Asus pits it up. Maybe ddr4 4000 but not sure what to get.
Psu either Evga or Seasonic 850 watt psu cant decide
Cooler is still Noctua U14 (I really want to use a AIO cooler but the possibility of it leaking and destroying my rig scares me lol)
Any suggestions welcome.
 

DrMrLordX

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@phillyman36

Interesting you brought up DDR4-4000 2x16GB. Kits like that are not common. Outside of the Crucial products (which seem to be tightly-binned Micron e-die), I can't 100% tell which ICs are in these things. If it's b-die then you're looking at 4 ranks which could cause problems with achieving advertised clockspeeds. Anyway the Crucial DIMMs should be 2 ranks total. That Ripjaws V kit looks interesting though:


The Crucial kit is around $80 more and has worse timings.

That aside, beware EVGA PSUs unless you're going to be looking at something like a P2-series (which are still pretty good, but overpriced for what they are). Anything newer than their G3 series should be held in some suspicion.

edit: if I were going for 850W PSU right now, I would be looking at:

 
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phillyman36

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@phillyman36

Interesting you brought up DDR4-4000 2x16GB. Kits like that are not common. Outside of the Crucial products (which seem to be tightly-binned Micron e-die), I can't 100% tell which ICs are in these things. If it's b-die then you're looking at 4 ranks which could cause problems with achieving advertised clockspeeds. Anyway the Crucial DIMMs should be 2 ranks total. That Ripjaws V kit looks interesting though:


The Crucial kit is around $80 more and has worse timings.

That aside, beware EVGA PSUs unless you're going to be looking at something like a P2-series (which are still pretty good, but overpriced for what they are). Anything newer than their G3 series should be held in some suspicion.

edit: if I were going for 850W PSU right now, I would be looking at:

Havent gotten the memory yet. Was just thinking about getting ddr4 4000 from the last leaked slide saying that 4000 might be the sweet spot. Only things I have from my list is the 980 pro and of course the Noctua cooler. Will look into the psu you suggested. I was thinking about one of these


 

Dave3000

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I sold my 3900x rig. For my 5000 build im getting
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Purchased)
Ryzen 9 5900x
Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Wifi
going for 32Gb ( 2 x 16GB sticks) of ram trying to see whats on QVL when Asus pits it up. Maybe ddr4 4000 but not sure what to get.
Psu either Evga or Seasonic 850 watt psu cant decide
Cooler is still Noctua U14 (I really want to use a AIO cooler but the possibility of it leaking and destroying my rig scares me lol)
Any suggestions welcome.
Did you have future proofing in mind when you purchased your 3900x that you sold or did you actually make good use of those 12 cores? What was your 3900x lacking that you decided to sell it and upgrade to a 5900x CPU that is not even out in stores yet?
 

phillyman36

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Did you have future proofing in mind when you purchased your 3900x that you sold or did you actually make good use of those 12 cores? What was your 3900x lacking that you decided to sell it and upgrade to a 5900x CPU that is not even out in stores yet?
No future proofing wasnt in my mind. Wanted to try the 3900x when it came out. Served me well but i usually upgrade every year or 2. Didnt need to but wanted to.
 

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