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Shmee

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Yeah I will likely be getting the 5900X, but I will wait for reviews to see which one makes the most sense for games.
 

EXCellR8

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Yea idk... def need a new board for anything but also want that sweet RX 6000 series, prob can't swing both. Well, I could but

Didn't watch or read any coverage material but why the skip over 4000?
 

Martimus

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Yea idk... def need a new board for anything but also want that sweet RX 6000 series, prob can't swing both. Well, I could but

Didn't watch or read any coverage material but why the skip over 4000?
They skipped the 4000 series because Zen 2 APUs were already labeled as 4000 series parts. This way they get away from the confusion of APUs having last Gen cores on current Gen part numbers.
 
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This needs to be in the board section or build section, but I would like to move to smaller cases, but with great airflow for all components for a great Zen3 build.

I'll post in other places, as my current am4 board is too old for this new goodness. A CPU without a board and bios is useless.
 

DrMrLordX

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Has anyone said what will be the effective max power draw for any of the announced Vermeer SKUs? Matisse topped out at 142W.
 

EXCellR8

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I'm sure someone's said it... just not here. At least that I know of. I'm guessing 125 tho tops +/-
 

GoodRevrnd

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Are there any new motherboards coming out, or revisions? What's my option for an X570 Tomahawk equivalent with Intel LAN?
 

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Has anyone said what will be the effective max power draw for any of the announced Vermeer SKUs? Matisse topped out at 142W.
I believe it was stated that sku for sku there will be the same max power draw. Performance goes up, power stays the same. We'll have to wait and see what the official reviews show in the end.
 

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Has anyone said what will be the effective max power draw for any of the announced Vermeer SKUs? Matisse topped out at 142W.
The Anandtech article had a blurb on that. "All four processors have the same official memory support at DDR4-3200, and the 105 W TDPs will offer a turbo power of 142 W, which is the same as the current generation Ryzen processors."
 

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I currently have a 2600X and a MSI B450 Tomahawk motherboard. I’m planning on upgrading to the 5600X and I have 2 options. Option 1. I wait 5 to 6 months and upgrade the BIOS on my B450. This is the cheapest option at $300, but I don’t like the idea of the one direction beta BIOS update. The second option is to buy a B550 or X570 mother board. This option would cost me around $500, but I have no idea which type of board to get. I’m a little surprised at how many B550s cost more than a X570. I’m looking at boards in the $200 range. Something like the ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (WiFi 6) or the GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI.
 

LikeLinus

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Is it correct that the recommended RAM is DDR4 3200? Funny thing, I have 32GB in a machine that is DDR4 3200 and I was thinking about throwing another 32GB. But I may replace the hardware with a 5900x setup. So should I get 3200 or should I get faster RAM? The idea I could use the 64GB until moving it over to a 5900x is available would be nice!
 

Martimus

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Is it correct that the recommended RAM is DDR4 3200? Funny thing, I have 32GB in a machine that is DDR4 3200 and I was thinking about throwing another 32GB. But I may replace the hardware with a 5900x setup. So should I get 3200 or should I get faster RAM? The idea I could use the 64GB until moving it over to a 5900x is available would be nice!
AMD kept the same memory controller as Zen 2. In fact the entire IO die is exactly the same die they produce at Global Foundries in order to meet their WSA with them.
 
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DrMrLordX

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The Anandtech article had a blurb on that. "All four processors have the same official memory support at DDR4-3200, and the 105 W TDPs will offer a turbo power of 142 W, which is the same as the current generation Ryzen processors."
Okay. That will help people with builds and power requirements. Thanks for pointing that out (and @Kenmitch). Most VRMs that can hold up to a 3900x or 3950x should be fine for a 5900x.
 

Zstream

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So... back at it again in a different thread. What's the best memory again ? I'm looking for 32gb of ram under $200 that's at least 3600 speeds.
 

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Huh? Why not buy a 3600 for $180ish? Still a great all around CPU.
Yes but the 2700x could be had for $129 and the 2600x could be had for $79. The x470 motherboards were $85....those were some sweet prices.

Today $129 gets you a 4-core CPU.....2020 is just bad.
 
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JustMe21

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AMD is now too expensive....never thought I would see that day. I wish I had stockpiled the 2000 series when they were in clearance. It had plenty of horse power.
People will still have the option to buy the 3000 and lower series, so if you don't like the prices, go previous gen. It's not like game performance was terrible with previous gen processors. Or wait for AMD to introduce their lower cost SKUs, which they should because people preferred the lower TDP SKUs as the power consumption was lower and the performance difference was negligible.

I am disappointed that the 5800X didn't release with a base clock of 4 GHz. I've been waiting for an AMD processor that could hit 4 GHz base and wasn't on the Bulldozer architecture.
 
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DrMrLordX

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So... back at it again in a different thread. What's the best memory again ? I'm looking for 32gb of ram under $200 that's at least 3600 speeds.
Zen3 should be about the same as Zen2 in terms of what memory it likes. So I'm just going to be a broken record and recommend Micron e-die again!


That's binned for 3600 out-of-the-box. If you want to save a little and don't mind more tweaking (and risking the silicon lottery) then you can get about the same ICs here:


For some reason Amazon has the DDR4-3200 kit for $115, which is a lower price than what you can find for the DDR4-3000 equivalent. Very interesting.

I am disappointed that the 5800X didn't release with a base clock of 4 GHz. I've been waiting for an AMD processor that could hit 4 GHz base and wasn't on the Bulldozer architecture.
Base clock is misleading. It's hard to find anything that will run at that clockspeed. You have to have truly awful cooling and run something like Prime95 SmallFFT or one of those awful PrimeGRID workloads to get close to base clocks.
 

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Zen3 should be about the same as Zen2 in terms of what memory it likes. So I'm just going to be a broken record and recommend Micron e-die again!


That's binned for 3600 out-of-the-box. If you want to save a little and don't mind more tweaking (and risking the silicon lottery) then you can get about the same ICs here:


For some reason Amazon has the DDR4-3200 kit for $115, which is a lower price than what you can find for the DDR4-3000 equivalent. Very interesting.



Base clock is misleading. It's hard to find anything that will run at that clockspeed. You have to have truly awful cooling and run something like Prime95 SmallFFT or one of those awful PrimeGRID workloads to get close to base clocks.

While most applications typically run at above base clock speeds with Precision Boost 2 enabled, you still have to wonder why we even have a base clock speed under 4 GHz any more.
 

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I am shopping around for a new ATX motherboard. I am on the fence between Asus Crosshair X570, MSI X570 Unify and Gigabyte Aorus X570 Master... I like the 3 M2 slots from the last boards and I read some bad experiences around the Gigabyte (but I like their VRM implementation and heatsink)...

What do you guys recommend? I will be using a 5950X and either 4x8GB B-die DIMMs or the current 2x32GB M-die
 

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