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B-Riz

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Ajay

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Just put my build together.... but... No matter what it doesn't POST. It seems like latest BIOS flashed properly. There isn't even error leds so it seems to be almost POSTing. Not sure what to do tomorrow.
Did you plug in both the 8 pin & 4 pin atx12v cables at the top left of the board? My MSI fails to boot when only one 8 pin is plugged in.
 

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last bios update improved scores 100 points stock ( from prev PICS) and 200 points with pbo.... thats 4770 points! never goes past 68C full load
I just updated my ASRock B450M Pro4 bios to latest in preparation for socketing in a Zen 3 chip.

Ryzen 3600 on PBO with PPT 100, TDC 60, EDC 80. 3200 16-18-18-38 RAM.

Geekbench 5
1250 / 7045
(in GB5 database ST equals 3600X, MT equals 3600XT score)

CB23
1236 / 9245
(MT score up from 9148 pre BIOS update)

All scores are peak scores obtained after rebooting machine and running the tests 5 times.

Going to do the same tests once I drop the Zen 3 chip in there (whatever it may be) and just wanted to leave this here for reference :)
 
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Did you plug in both the 8 pin & 4 pin atx12v cables at the top left of the board? My MSI fails to boot when only one 8 pin is plugged in.
Yep.


Hmh... I'm almost certain that either CPU or motherboard is DOA. I hate RMAing stuff. Especially now since I don't know which is broken.
 
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Hmh... I'm almost certain that either CPU or motherboard is DOA
The board was working with the older CPU, but did not work when you put in the new one?
Fairly strange to be a CPU since they have good self test capability.
If the system did not post but is resetting, very likely it is BIOS or RAM.
You can use older CPU to reset defaults before putting in the new CPU.
 

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The board was working with the older CPU, but did not work when you put in the new one?
Fairly strange to be a CPU since they have good self test capability.
If the system did not post but is resetting, very likely it is BIOS or RAM.
You can use older CPU to reset defaults before putting in the new CPU.
I don't have any CPU to test with. My old build is i7-3770K based.
 

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Wait, so you didn’t have an older CPU that you used flashed your mobo with compatible BIOS?
I didn't. But! Finally got it to work! It POSTed with one RAM stick. Now I have everything in but in dual channel config. Installing Windows at the moment. Bios flashback thing was a pain in the backside but eventually got it to work.
 

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By the way, it turns out that the other memory kit is likely defective. I don't see any other reason why this kit boots just fine but the other one doesn't. I did the previous single and dual stick test with that kit... Then I swapped the positions and tried first with single stick from another kit. Then I added another stick from that kit.
 

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By the way, it turns out that the other memory kit is likely defective. I don't see any other reason why this kit boots just fine but the other one doesn't. I did the previous single and dual stick test with that kit... Then I swapped the positions and tried first with single stick from another kit. Then I added another stick from that kit.

Seems logical. A complete no-post is usually down to board or memory. If you have wrong UEFI version, hilarity ensues like . . . POSTing at reduced clockspeeds or funky error messages.
 

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Its not all that bad having to wait for the CPU's to get in stock... Hopefully most BIOS issues (and new OC/performance features) will be sorted out and ready in a month or so.
 

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Seems logical. A complete no-post is usually down to board or memory. If you have wrong UEFI version, hilarity ensues like . . . POSTing at reduced clockspeeds or funky error messages.
I've had my fair share of faulty memory kits. Previously though they all posted fine but would cause stability issues and corruption. When I RMA those I sure hope that they don't magically start working when they test them. o_O
 
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Det0x

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Think i have found my new 24/7 memory settings for the 5950x (stock cpu with no PBO atm)
Hitting hard limit @ 1900 MT/s 1:1 with IF :mad:


finale, cl 14 at ddr 3800 1to1 if.png

This is done one a dual CCX cpu with 4 memory sticks :)

Think i will start tweaking core clockspeed tomorrow, aiming for that 5100++ mhz sustained:tonguewink:
 

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Intel(R) Memory Latency Checker: my 3950x vs my 5950x

[snip]

Is that 5950x memory config memtest stable? I have the Dark Hero and I'm going to try plugging in your config to try it out.

Right now I have 3800CL16 stable using the setup from 3800 Fast on the ryzen dram calculator. Having a hard time figuring out what voltages to use though because sometimes it seems like lowering or increasing one voltage or another causes it to fail to post when I try tighter timings or 4000.
 

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Think i have found my new 24/7 memory settings for the 5950x (stock cpu with no PBO atm)
Hitting hard limit @ 1900 MT/s 1:1 with IF :mad:

Your memory is slower then mine in MEMbench....LOL
Is it because your forced to run GDM enabled with 4 sticks?

3800_CL14_MEMbench.jpg

I still got to try and do some more tweaking on my memory, but it's 100% stable so far. New MB = New adventures! 2000FCLK is a no go with the
current uEFI revisions on the MB. My 5900x and memory were cool with it on my last MB. Maybe a new uEFI versions will make it possible?


I'm on Rev 2 of my build. My original rig would run the 5900x fine, but unfavorable VRM temps got me looking....

New items for my rig:
MPG B550 GAMING CARBON WIFI
Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 500GB
Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix....Top as exhaust
Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic in white
Seasonic USA Focus GX Series 850 Watt 80 Plus Gold
Corsair QL120mm RGB LED Fan, Triple Pack...Intakes so needed pretty backside.

Temp GPU....Will get a RX 6800XT once I can get one for MSRP or with a reasonable handlers fee!
Gigabyte AORUS MASTER RTX 3070...I sold my RX 5700 locally and needed a current gen gpu. Not really the card I wanted, but the dang scalpers
are asking crazy prices for the RX 6800XT's. Got $80 more then expected for the RX 5700 so it covered the local scalpers markup at least. The
onboard led is cool looking and the card runs very cool. It's probably one of the best 3070's....If there is such a thing!

It's only been up and running a couple of days, but the temps are very favorable even under heavy prolonged stress testing loads.
 
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I got my 5950x two weeks before my dark hero. The hero just arrived yesterday, finally.

Never thought I'd have been stuck waiting on the motherboard.
I know right. let me know how it goes. On another forum some had a 5950x and a Dark Hero He kept getting blue screens and random reboots. Please when you are set up let us know if you had any problem.
 

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I know right. let me know how it goes. On another forum some had a 5950x and a Dark Hero He kept getting blue screens and random reboots. Please when you are set up let us know if you had any problem.

No major issues yet. I updated to the latest 3003. I can get 3800CL16 memtest stable and I can post at 4000CL16 but can't seem to make it stable enough to do more than some benchmarks.

On Asus forums some people are complaining they were 4000 stable on the previous bios and that 3003 regressed it so they can only get 3800 stable. I expect it to be fixed in a future revision.

Dynamic OC switcher is damn slick although I have noticed some oddities with regards to when it goes over the temperature threshold - it seems to do something other than revert to the stock boost behavior, causing it to continue heating up until it overheats/crashes.

I am using a U12A so I am very, very thermally limited despite very good looking all core clocks and voltages. I set dynamic oc switcher to 4.4 ghz at 1.15v (1.11v with vdroop) for the time being as it is stable and doesn't overload my cooler. I will probably not mess with it further until I get the water loop setup.
 

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@XabanakFanatik I plan on running mines at stock settings.(will use dcop for memory) Im using a Noctua u14. I hope it all goes smooth. Whenever I can get the mobo.

which chipset drivers did you use? The ones on Asus website or the ones from AMD?
 

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@XabanakFanatik I plan on running mines at stock settings.(will use dcop for memory) Im using a Noctua u14. I hope it all goes smooth. Whenever I can get the mobo.

which chipset drivers did you use? The ones on Asus website or the ones from AMD?

I didn't install any drivers explicitly, so whatever was installed by the fresh W10 20H2 and/or windows update automatically. Good thought, though, I should look at installing better drivers.

I had zero issues simply enabling DCOP on my old TridentZ 3200CL14 2x16 b-die kit.
 

Det0x

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Finally done with the clockspeed tweaking :)
PBO used for everything.
finale med t.png


Cinebench r23:

  • Singlethread = 1693
  • Multithread = 31124

Cinebench r20:

  • Singlethread = 661
  • Multithread = 12103

Cinebench r15:

  • Singlethread = 281
  • Multithread = 5262

Geekbench 5 @ https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/5247965

  • Singlethread = 1809
  • Multithread = 19615

Also some CPUZ scores in screenshot
Benching done on ~19-20 degrees ambiant.

Now i just need to wait for the MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X on its way in the mail, before i'm ready for cyberpunk :)